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re: Secret of Mana 3D remake coming to PS4/Vita/Steam Feb 18th

Posted on 8/25/17 at 9:48 am to
Posted by hoojy
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Posted on 8/25/17 at 9:48 am to
The switch turned me off with SD cards. Why you do that stupid shite again?

It's 2017 ffs.
Posted by Mystery
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Posted on 8/25/17 at 9:55 am to
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It's SNES.

Wot u expect a port to look like


But it is not an Snes port.
This post was edited on 8/25/17 at 9:56 am
Posted by hoojy
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Posted on 8/25/17 at 9:57 am to
The OG game was.

I honestly didn't expect much more than that from an SNES game.

Maybe it's just I'm happy it's coming to PC.
Posted by Mystery
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Posted on 8/25/17 at 9:57 am to
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Keeping a game from other players who are probably as or more interested than you or me, for no reason outside of a written check, isn't fun for anyone. And when it's something like this with nostalgia and history it's doubly worse


But that is not how it happens all the time. You simply don't know how this went down.

Lots of times Sony, Microsoft or whoever will help finance the game for exclusivity. Which actively helps these games get made.

Yes Square is a huge company but without the funding from Sony they may have had no want to do this.

Money talks.
Posted by Mystery
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Posted on 8/25/17 at 10:00 am to
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The OG game was.

I honestly didn't expect much more than that from an SNES game.

Maybe it's just I'm happy it's coming to PC


But that does not make it a port. Plenty of old games get updated graphics.

But anyways the graphics is not what I don't like about the art style. It is more the silly looking 3D characters. I prefer the original sprites look but that is just me. With that said after looking at the top down pics it looks better there.
This post was edited on 8/25/17 at 10:01 am
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 8/25/17 at 10:03 am to
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I prefer the original sprites look but that is just me.


emulator


I'm excited for an updated game. I played this on an emulator a few years ago and the game still holds up. I have no issue with them sprucing it up and giving it the 3D treatment and adding "cut scenes". Just keep the soundtrack.
Posted by Freauxzen
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Posted on 8/25/17 at 10:03 am to
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But that is not how it happens all the time. You simply don't know how this went down.

Lots of times Sony, Microsoft or whoever will help finance the game for exclusivity. Which actively helps these games get made.

Yes Square is a huge company but without the funding from Sony they may have had no want to do this.




And you don't either, so we don't know if Square was doing this then Sony bought it. There's almost no chance that Sony came and said, "Hey, this would sell well," Square already knows this. I've wanted a remake of CT, SoM, and the FF's for years (or at least the VC's, which were so slow going on the Wii).

I just don't see Sony having the brilliant idea before Square that this was of interest to people.

With who Sony generally is, I'm going with the buying rights once they heard about it, or making it a part of the FF XV development. Sony is super motivated to do this all of the time, and has a deep history of it.

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Money talks.


Of course it does. That doesn't make it right. In general, outside of first/second parties, I'd rather everyone enjoy video games, rather than companies putting everyone on sides, and manipulating nostalgia and experience.

If this was "New Square sort of mobile/old-school RPG," no one cares. It's different because it's SoM.
This post was edited on 8/25/17 at 10:10 am
Posted by Mystery
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Posted on 8/25/17 at 10:20 am to
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And you don't either,


I know but I am not the one throwing a fit.
Posted by Mystery
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Posted on 8/25/17 at 10:21 am to
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emulator


I'm excited for an updated game. I played this on an emulator a few years ago and the game still holds up. I have no issue with them sprucing it up and giving it the 3D treatment and adding "cut scenes". Just keep the soundtrack.


They could update the game and make it look much better.
Once again I am not talking about the graphics. The art style looks silly to me.
Posted by hoojy
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Posted on 8/25/17 at 10:24 am to
IT's a port when it's ported over. Maybe not by your standards, but by the standards of everyone else.
Posted by Mystery
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Posted on 8/25/17 at 10:29 am to
It is not a port by definition.

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Porting is also the term used when a video game designed to run on one platform, be it an arcade, video game console, or personal computer, is converted to run on a different platform. Earlier video game "ports" were often not true ports, but rather reworked versions of the games. However, many 21st century video games are developed using software (often in C++) that can output code for one or more consoles as well as for a PC without the need for actual porting (instead relying on the common porting of individual component libraries).




This is a remake.
A port would be the original coming to PS4.
This post was edited on 8/25/17 at 10:31 am
Posted by Freauxzen
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Posted on 8/25/17 at 10:29 am to
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I know but I am not the one throwing a fit.




Saying F Sony, isn't a fit. It's just saying they do this all of the time and this one is particularly annoying. That's all.
Posted by hoojy
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Posted on 8/25/17 at 10:31 am to
It would be a remaster on technical terms, no?

We're splitting hairs, brochacho.


Just happy to see a remaster of this masterpiece.

Edit: Either way, I'm happy this game is coming to pc.
This post was edited on 8/25/17 at 10:33 am
Posted by Mystery
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Posted on 8/25/17 at 10:35 am to
Sure, just only pointing out it is not a port because they actually will be completely making the game over.
So any amount of upgrade to the graphics could have been done.



Note: I don't have a problem with the graphics not being great. As this is probably not a big project for them.
Posted by hoojy
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Posted on 8/25/17 at 10:37 am to
I would hope most people would be happy with this project.

It's nothing more than the SNES game with better graphics(or w/e mobile platform it came from).
Posted by Mystery
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Posted on 8/25/17 at 11:00 am to
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I just don't see Sony having the brilliant idea before Square that this was of interest to people.

With who Sony generally is, I'm going with the buying rights once they heard about it, or making it a part of the FF XV development. Sony is super motivated to do this all of the time, and has a deep history of it.


There are 3 ways this could have happened.

1. Sony decided to throw money at Square for exclusivity.

2. Sony approached Square with the idea. Offered them money to help with producing for exclusivity.

3. Square approached Sony with wanting help to get the project off the ground. Sony gets exclusivity in the deal.

All 3 of these are plausible and happen. They are business partners.

Look at Shenmue 3, A game long awaited by fans is getting created because of the hugely successful kickstarter. But that is not the only reason, Sony's partnership is also the reason it has the funds to get made. Which is why Sony is getting an old Sega game as an exclusive.
This post was edited on 8/25/17 at 11:09 am
Posted by FourThreeForty
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Posted on 8/25/17 at 11:39 am to
frick everything about Sony!!! I'm not usually one to get salty about a remake or PS4 exclusive but this is HORRIBLE!!!! I played this ALL the time as a kid and have wanted it remade for years!

Why all these companies jack off to Sony is beyond me. The console itself horribly under performs on big budget games, yet gets all the big titles.

I hope this gets ported to PC. It would be a travesty to not see this classic in other platforms. If you are a PS exclusive gamer then frick you. You're part of the problem.


Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 8/25/17 at 11:40 am to
Posted by The Dudes Rug
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Posted on 8/25/17 at 11:41 am to
Why don't you just get a PS4?
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 8/25/17 at 11:43 am to
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If you are a PS exclusive gamer then frick you.


What does this even mean? They only play exclusive games, or they only own a PS4?

Or you're a little bitch?
This post was edited on 8/25/17 at 11:44 am
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