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Posted on 7/22/16 at 1:54 pm to
Posted by LSUSaintsHornets
Based Pelican
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Posted on 7/22/16 at 1:54 pm to
Also since I expect this card to sell out in minutes when is it going to be available for order?
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 7/22/16 at 2:45 pm to
My experience, you will need to purchase on eBay or Amazon at a mark up. The 1080s are still hot off the shelves at 700-800. So expect to pay 1300 at less for this card at launch.
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 7/22/16 at 5:10 pm to
I'm in total gridlock, because I don't want to spend thousands of dollars just yet. If I upgrade cards, I'll need to go 4K as well. But I also might upgrade my Nexus 6. I also need a new laptop. Gotta prioritize.
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
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Posted on 7/22/16 at 5:13 pm to
Just join the HBM2 waiting lounge, it's a nice comfortable temperature in here.
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
18018 posts
Posted on 7/22/16 at 5:31 pm to
Yeah, I won't be buying anything but HBM2. Just a matter of when. I've been gaming far less lately, so I may just take these 980s into Q4 2017.
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 7/22/16 at 7:22 pm to
I feel the same way a little. Especially since I will be in Corpus Christi until December and no HBM2 on GP102.

But..

How much will HBM2 benefit me at 4K? The throughout is a little lower but I'm sure you could bump up against 500MBps with an OC on that RAM.
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
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Posted on 7/22/16 at 7:55 pm to
Probably not that much really, but I've also heard there are games now with mods that can push 12GB, so HBM2 being 16GB and up to 32GB....that's what I want.
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 7/22/16 at 8:03 pm to
quote:

Probably not that much really, but I've also heard there are games now with mods that can push 12GB, so HBM2 being 16GB and up to 32GB....that's what I want.

but usually you don't need high bandwidth for games with mods, it is more about capacity. Like Skyrim and other open world game mods. This is usually works better just cached. When you load the map/world the data will be cached and stay there and not need to be cycled through.

Games like Rise of the Tomb Raider which need the bandwidth would probably benefit more from HBM. I would think.

Edt: I really want HBM on fckking something. So disappointed the new Small Titan doesn't have HBM2
This post was edited on 7/22/16 at 8:05 pm
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
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Posted on 7/22/16 at 8:06 pm to
Aren't most mods quite poor in terms of optimization and that's what really pushes the limits of current 12GB cards? I know some of those Skyrim mods go pretty far and are quite hogs.


Overall though, it's just about having a 32GB HBM2 card. Want. Or even 16GB.

I'll just sit in the waiting lounge however long at this point I think.
This post was edited on 7/22/16 at 8:08 pm
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
53390 posts
Posted on 7/22/16 at 8:15 pm to
Yeah but it's more about optimization in terms that I've just stated. They through everything on the VRAM to be cached because of limited access to the game engine. So to my understanding, once the game loads it's hard to constantly access data without breaking the game. So they have it all cached during the load.
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
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65834 posts
Posted on 7/22/16 at 8:27 pm to
So you're going to get 32GB variant over 16GB if/when available?
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
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65834 posts
Posted on 7/22/16 at 8:33 pm to
Also, sounds like Gears Of War 4 on PC will be the first UWP title to get a lot of the new features available to UWP now.
quote:


"Our focus on PC is to deliver a highly optimised, customisable experience first and foremost," Rayner tells us.

"Support for v-sync tearing has recently come to UWP and we will be able to offer proper unlocked frame-rate support that gamers expect on day one. With Unreal Engine 4 and our own custom modifications, we can take much better advantage of multiple CPU cores, alleviating the game from being CPU-bound and allowing more room for the GPU to shine with enhanced visual quality or higher framerates. Single-player will not be locked to 30fps on PC."

quote:

Rayner also listed "a few items of note" the team are adding to the PC version. In his own words:

Dynamic resolution support (any resolution will be supported with a sensible dynamic field of view - including ultra-wide).
Increased texture resolution (up to 4K resolution for select texture groups).
A benchmark mode.
Full keyboard/mouse input remapping (including cover/run and roll split).
Far more comprehensive video settings.
"Today we sit at 28 different settings and we're thinking of ways to add more for people to really have full control," Rayner tells us. "Along with more settings, we're putting extra time into making it clear what impact a setting will have on GPU/CPU/VRAM so there is a clear correlation between a setting change and its performance impact."

Some of the work designed to give smoother Xbox One performance is also being redeployed on PC in order to further enhance the experience.

Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
53390 posts
Posted on 7/22/16 at 8:59 pm to
Fckk no. Not needed
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
65834 posts
Posted on 7/22/16 at 9:01 pm to
Oh come on yolo
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
53390 posts
Posted on 7/22/16 at 9:51 pm to
I don't think they will have a 32GB HBM2 gamer/consumer card. Those skus will be put out for the Tesla GP100 cards. I do believe we will get a 16GB HBM2 card for the "Big/Full Titan".
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
65834 posts
Posted on 7/22/16 at 10:04 pm to
Who knows, I've heard 32GB linked to Vega a decent amount of times. I'm good on 16GB though.
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
53390 posts
Posted on 7/22/16 at 10:23 pm to
Think it's linked because of compatibility, just no reason for them to do it.

But then again like you said... Who knows

Remember when nVidia launched that flop of a TITAN Z for $3500? Maybe they will launch a Titan Z but instead dual GPU it's double the HBM2 @ 32GB!
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
65834 posts
Posted on 7/22/16 at 10:27 pm to
Posted by GalvoAg
Galveston TX
Member since Apr 2012
10847 posts
Posted on 7/22/16 at 10:27 pm to
Installing a Hyper 212 Evo for the first time is not fun.
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
53390 posts
Posted on 7/22/16 at 10:29 pm to
Why? That is an easy cooler to install.

Mobo problems?
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