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Posted by Taffeta
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Anyone wanna buy my account? $500
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Posted by Greace
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Posted on 4/13/17 at 11:54 am to
Where did this come from?
Posted by dcrews
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Posted on 4/13/17 at 12:15 pm to
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Its just not fun anymore that you play one terrible game and it takes an hour to get through it because nobody wants to surrender


I think this is what frustrates a lot of people, myself included.

If I or my team has a bad game, instead of just surrendering and moving on to the next game, it's just a slow, painful 40 minutes to the loss. Any headway gained that might give you a slim chance to win, is immediately erased by multiple teammates doing something incredibly retarded.

I had this conversation last night with Lebronukkah. I don't need my teammates to be good. I just need them to not be inbred level stupid. Apparently I'm expecting too much.
This post was edited on 4/13/17 at 12:18 pm
Posted by dcrews
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Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 4/13/17 at 12:16 pm to
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<-- Low Bronze James, add me to the roster.



Will add you when I get home this evening.
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 4/13/17 at 12:44 pm to
Mine is up to $1765 lord help me
Posted by Greace
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Posted on 4/13/17 at 1:23 pm to
What site is this?
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 4/13/17 at 1:24 pm to
Posted by Jackie Chan
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Posted on 4/13/17 at 2:15 pm to
$1230

But when you break it down it makes it easier to take.

246$/year 5 years of playing.



Posted by VagueMessage
Fayetteville, AR
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 4/13/17 at 3:09 pm to
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If I or my team has a bad game, instead of just surrendering and moving on to the next game, it's just a slow, painful 40 minutes to the loss. Any headway gained that might give you a slim chance to win, is immediately erased by multiple teammates doing something incredibly retarded.

I had this conversation last night with Lebronukkah. I don't need my teammates to be good. I just need them to not be inbred level stupid. Apparently I'm expecting too much.


I think my biggest issue is Riot has, on the surface, taken a hardnose stance on people ruining the game for four to nine other people. But in reality, they're too inconsistent. I've spent enough time in 20 minute queues for ditching stupid arse games in a ragequit (well, more like "apathyquit", I'm rarely downright angry, just over it), and I feel like bad players doing things that are a little too off-meta is actually far worse. Yet, those people don't get suspended or thrown in a low priority queue unless they become famous for what they're doing, like the Smite support Singed.

If you're going to break meta, do it in a way that makes relative sense to your elo. I just played a game as Soraka supporting a Teemo ADC (got S on that shite, too. One more to Mastery 7!), but in low elo, Teemo can work or even excel pretty well anywhere. You can't justify something like full AP Garen mid unless you're like level five and still don't know the purpose of last hitting.

I don't even play ranked. The thought that people do this stuff in competitive play is exponentially worse. While I'm on the topic, I don't think "it's just norms" is a reasonable excuse to dick completely off in solo queue, yet Riot again unevenly enforces their rules. I understand norms are low pressure, but it's still like 45 minutes of my life if you frick it up and one other person won't surrender. I have a full-time job, a long-term relationship to maintain, and some pathetic semblance of a life outside of this game. Maybe I shouldn't have to sit through your dipshit experiment of "is Ashe jungle viable?" if I don't feel like it. I don't bust into their Bronze IV games with a troll pick and say "it's just Bronze, this doesn't matter. You could climb out of this easily if you wanted to." Being considerate works both ways.

Also, the queue dodging rules are way too harsh. I'm actually allowed to leave a game or two before they start punishing me. I very rarely ever leave a queue, and half the time it's not even to dodge. But the very first offense is a six minute wait? If I see our team is going to be five AP without a tank in sight, I'm not sitting through that shite.

Basically, punish every shite head or none of the shite heads
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 4/13/17 at 3:50 pm to
I've decided that if someone is picking a hardcore troll pick (Garen mid, Teemo jungle, etc...) in ranked, I'm dodging and taking the negative 3 LP.

People are already difficult to play with when they play normal champions in normal roles. I don't need them adding more difficulty to the already annoying up hill battle that is solo queue
Posted by VagueMessage
Fayetteville, AR
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 4/13/17 at 6:03 pm to
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I know I vent a lot on here about this game, but I literally just had an experience that takes the cake.

3 ranked games tonight. First two, my bot lane dies a combined 35 times....35 times in two games. Ok whatever.

I queue up as ADC to avoid that again. My support goes fiddle. I give it a chance. Entire enemy team walks over a ward to our red. We ping it like crazy...our mid laner face checks the bush they just walked into, feeds the enemy adc a kill. Ok whatever.

First wave comes. My fiddle immediately starts using his crows (silence) on the wave. I ask him not to do that because it pushes the wave and takes farm away from me. I'm told to "stfu, I have to poke them using minions". I ask him again not to as it puts us in a bad spot. He curses me once more then leaves bot lane to go mid and start farming mid....@ 3 mins.....

So our ziggs says "I'll come bot and support you". This after a few minutes of me being 1v2 and now severely behind. When he finally comes, we do pretty well. Karma roamed, and ziggs is poking the cait down. They both have one hit left on each of them, so I flash forward to get in range to heal and secure the kill. I save him, get the kill. The ziggs then tells me "frick you" and proceeds to farm every wave with his abilities. When I ask him why, he tells me "Bc you flashed ks'd me".

I mean, I didn't even know what to say at this point. I literally had nothing to type in chat. Nothing. I was literally dumbfounded. Two supports in the same game over a span of 10 mins are now flaming me for 1)asking not to take my farm 2) Because I (the adc) got the kill on an enemy and not my support.

Ranked in this game is a joke and I for the life of me cannot understand why or how people are this dumb.

What's worse, I actually wound up doing better than 90% of the bot lanes I play with, even after all that shite happened.

That being said, I'm done with ranked unless I'm playing with you guys as a premade. This shite is maddening and I'm tired of wasting hours of my night because a couple of people want to troll or be dumb.




I don't know why I waited so long to find this thread. I love the comisserating and ranting.

You're fricking up, man. I'm probably never going to play ranked. I have too much fun playing champs to the highest mastery level I can and buying runes/skins/champs to stress about the grind of ranked. I've had my fair share of trolls, but I've never experienced your situation. I don't understand how people in norms legitimately seem to want to win more than ranked. Why are people allowed to do these things more than one time before they get barred from competitive play?

I can't get down with that. I can't rely on four other people to care as much as me. I'm not good at all, but not dying excessively is ridiculously easy. I've seen people with 18-20 deaths, and I don't think I've ever once died that many times. Like ever.

Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 4/13/17 at 6:26 pm to
4 ranked games in a row....same story every time. 3 hardcore feeders, one toxic as hell, and game is over again before I can eve get out of laning phase.

I literally got flamed and had my support start stealing farm at 3 minutes. Meanwhile he feeds 10 kills in under 15 minutes then blames me for it.

Mid Kat goes 2/10, GP top not much better.

People can say what they want about "winning is all on how YOU play", but it's total horseshite. The level of play in Gold and silver just as well be level 10 playing against bots.

Now I'm demoted to Silver 3.

ETA: Also forgot to mention my support was autofill. I'd again like to wish a slow cancerous death to the moron at Riot who implemented this idea.

ETA2: I give up. 5 in a row now where I can't even get to a full item before two enemies have double digit kills.

Other lanes get fed before 15 minutes then just come bot and 4 man my lane..can't farm..can't do anything.. Other laners never punish them for it so they get drags, towers and kills for free.

I'm not sure what else to do. I can't fight a 15 kill fiora at 20 mins with a GA as an ADC.



This post was edited on 4/13/17 at 7:03 pm
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 4/14/17 at 1:59 pm to
The new Rift Herald!
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It’s been a year and a half since we introduced Rift Herald to give teams a top-side objective to play around in the early game. One of the problems we’ve consistently faced: Herald’s single-user buff has to be pretty damn impactful to compete for attention with Elemental Drakes or even a group-push in botlane. But when that’s true, the empowered champion becomes impossible to lane against. This friction has kept our mutated rift scuttler from hitting a state that delivers on her goals.

With that in mind, we're ditching the buff approach. The Rift Herald now drops the Herald’s Eye as she retreats into the Void, lasting in your inventory for a few minutes and granting Empowered Recall while held. Using the eye before it expires summons the Herald back to the Rift under your team’s banner, sending her down the nearest lane as a structure-smashing siege engine. She says hello by ramming into buildings from a distance, dealing massive damage. From there, she’ll steadily smash it to rubble before moving onto the next objective down the lane.
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
30191 posts
Posted on 4/14/17 at 5:36 pm to
Jump into a norm, what do you know, support is kind, knowledgeable, and mid roams, things are going great!

Oh wait...what's that? Oh that's just the 15 kill darius at 20 minutes because our Fiora is retarded. We lose
Posted by WareagleTD
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 4/14/17 at 5:41 pm to
Do you ever win a game? Lol
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
30191 posts
Posted on 4/14/17 at 6:24 pm to
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Do you ever win a game? Lol


Not lately.

Can't buy a win in any game mode as of the last 3 days.

It's the same story though. My lane goes even at worst, but one or multiple other lanes get's absolutely dumpster'd and we're faced with trying to come back down double digit kills before 20 minutes. Which can be done, but not when your team continues to make poor decisions and feed them further.

It's simple, I just need my team to not keep dying early, and the game can easily be won. But not when their top and mid laners are leaving laning phase with double digit kills.

It's easy shite that these people can easily fix

- Enemy mid laner roams, either follow or shove lane to get their tower

- You see enemy jungler ganking. If you are close by, come help. If you aren't, gank one of the other lanes since their is no risk of counter gank. If you can't do that, go counter jungle to steal camps/buffs or to get vision advantage...do SOMETHING.

- Enemy top laner kills you three times early, fine. You are behind, don't try to continually fight while down 2 levels, an entire item and 40 cs and turn it into an even bigger lead for the enemy.

- Don't wander around the unwarded jungle

- Don't continually start fights with the enemy team while down 15 kills

- And lastly, one of my biggest triggers...if I'm getting tower dove by 4 enemies and I die, I'm totally cool with it...but not when my team sees this and doesn't get objectives while they are diving.

My teammates lately don't do any of these things and it's why our teams are constantly losing by a shite ton of kills and objectives. No one understands how to play the game, especially from behind.


I'm not some great awesome player (obviously), but I feel that at least 90% of the time I'm not a liability to my or THE reason we lose. I can't say the same about a lot of the players I've played with the last few days.
This post was edited on 4/14/17 at 6:26 pm
Posted by Mahootney
Lovin' My German Footprint
Member since Sep 2008
11875 posts
Posted on 4/14/17 at 8:14 pm to
He only wins when I play with him. Haha

Yeah I'm finding more and more. I have to pop off and go beastly to overcome the retards. The struggle has never been realer.
Posted by VagueMessage
Fayetteville, AR
Member since Jun 2013
3907 posts
Posted on 4/15/17 at 1:39 am to
It seems to me that you have to be capable of hard carrying most of your games in your current elo to prove yourself worthy of moving up. But this in itself makes no sense; if you're where you belong, you shouldn't be capable of being one of the best two players in the game in over 50% of your games. So because of this, instead of seeing the slow, gradual climb that you'd logically expect, you rocket through your divisions and then slowly start to lose most of your games when you're at the elo you belong. In my mind, you can't honestly compete at your true skill level, because if everything is equal, there's too much chaos and too many uncontrollable factors. Ranked is more of a dramatic tide, a surge. The tide means you flow, but you also ebb immediately after. It isn't really a "climb."

This kind of bothers me, but I don't know of a better way. I just wish people would acknowledge that the unpredictable x-factors of relying on four complete strangers could tangibly affect your rank. The high elo players will roll their eyes and tell you about how, statistically, there's an even chance that the other guys will get the idiots, too, and that you're the only common factor in each of your games. Therefore, your ten game losing streak where you finished with a positive KDA (sometimes very much so) in every game but one or two is somehow your fault. No, it's just that they had the zen and patience to keep grinding and improving through the frustrating losses to massively crush the elo they were already a little too good for and moved up to one they belonged. Rinse and repeat.

Go to any League subreddit geared toward advice and tell them you're a Bronze V Soraka main struggling to climb. They'll straight up tell you to not play support or ADC and play only roles that allow you to impact the game through sheer carrying or relevancy throughout the whole game. Utility is almost completely wasted in the lower levels, and the ADC doesn't truly start to carry (unless they get fed in lane) until late game when it may already be too late. Yet, those two roles have to be filled by somebody every game. And I'm not talking about just autofill, someone at every elo has to main these roles to do what's necessary so they can be good enough in the next tier. And if you're hellbent on playing support, they'll tell you to stop playing Soraka and start playing Malzahar, Brand, Lux, Karma, or some other mid mage with high damage so you can have another carrier on the team. In bronze, you can get away without even building a warding item and not be consistently punished for it.

I dunno, just an observation that may not even be right, although I think there's at least a kernel of truth. I have a lot of friends who play norms with me when I log on, and unless they're using the opportunity to play a champ that's new to them, they're rarely the weak link in the game. My ADC main friend who oscillates from high to low Silver wins or goes even in lane probably 90%+ of the time when I play with him, and I know there's no way he's actually Silver IV or V. I guess the only way to truly get better unless you're a natural freak talent is to develop nerves of titanium and practice improving specific weaknesses until the point where it's kind of not fun anymore. It's like playing the drums. Everyone likes just smacking around on a kit, and you'll get better just doing that until a point. But eventually, you have to sit down and practice rudiments and focus on stick control or you'll never actually be a good drummer. But that's not nearly as fun is it?
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
65807 posts
Posted on 4/15/17 at 5:28 am to
KTR return to form, 3-0 sweep all stomps in the semis over Samsung to setup SKT-KTR in the final.
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