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Posted on 5/2/16 at 10:41 am to
Posted by Jackie Chan
Japan?
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 5/2/16 at 10:41 am to
It's just a starting point. If they shouldn't be there, they will lose more than they win and they will fall in rank. If they should be there they will go even and stay there. If they are better, they will win and move up.

Placements shouldnt mean that much to you. I was Gold last season and got placed silver 5. It was inconvenient to have to play through silver completely, but I did and I'm back in gold.
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
30189 posts
Posted on 5/2/16 at 10:59 am to
Jackie is right.

In the long run, if you're friend truly doesn't belong there, he'll drop.

I've given up trying to figure out how placements work.

Eventually, you will be ranked where you are supposed to be ranked.

I've been up and down in Silver 2 & 3 for a bit. I feel confident I am a Gold V level player, but clearly I have aspects of my game that need work before I should consider myself better than my current Silver 2 rank.
Posted by SBvital
Member since Feb 2013
1954 posts
Posted on 5/2/16 at 11:06 am to
Yeah, I get what you guys are saying.

I didn't mean my post as a rant if it seemed like it, I just don't get it either.

I guess my thinking on it is that this guy, hypthetically, could be placed in a match with me on my team, feed, and we lose. It also can be the other way around and he be on the other team.
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
30189 posts
Posted on 5/2/16 at 12:54 pm to
quote:

I guess my thinking on it is that this guy, hypthetically, could be placed in a match with me on my team, feed, and we lose


Drewbie made a post a couple pages back concerning this. Has something to do with MMR reset and such.

Players who are new to the game are getting placed in high silver frequently, while veteran players are getting placed in bronze, lower silver.

The placement formula is all jacked up, so you have newer players that are absolutely misplaced.

In the long run, you will wind up where you belong rank-wise, regardless.
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
57876 posts
Posted on 5/2/16 at 3:45 pm to
The explanation is pretty simple. New players who have never played ranked before don't just come in with an MMR of 0. They are freely given an MMR in the Silver 3 range. So if they happen to win half their placement matches, they stay there regardless of their skill level. Couple that with the fact that Riot apparently slashed everyone's existing MMR from last season to this, and you see a lot of the veteran players getting placed in bronze while new scrubs are sitting mid/low silver. I've said many times that the level of play in high bronze kicks the shite out of low silver. Getting out of bronze was cake due to the fact that people had the game knowledge to rotate for objectives, and the basic concepts of good team comps. So if you do have that knowledge, climbing out of bronze simply takes superior mechanical play. Meanwhile in silver it's just a fricking shitshow.

I'm not sure if I shared this or not, but my smurf with a total of 16 champions that I hadn't placed in ranked since season 4 with went 3-7 in placements this year and got placed silver 4 after being bronze two seasons ago. Not having an MMR last season actually increased the placement because of the new formula. It's pretty busted.
This post was edited on 5/2/16 at 3:47 pm
Posted by Taffeta
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2012
923 posts
Posted on 5/2/16 at 4:28 pm to
There are no mechanics in Bronze/Silver.

You don't need mechanics to get out of Bronze, you just need to make better decisions. Same goes for Silver.


Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
57876 posts
Posted on 5/2/16 at 4:43 pm to
quote:

There are no mechanics in Bronze/Silver.
That's retarded. There are mechanics at every level of play. They may be at a low level, but there's no such thing as no mechanics. If you have bronze mechanics, you're going to stay in bronze because of what was mentioned above. Game knowledge in bronze is higher than that in silver. This coming from someone who's seen both this season.
This post was edited on 5/2/16 at 4:49 pm
Posted by Mear
Member since Oct 2010
4836 posts
Posted on 5/2/16 at 5:14 pm to
quote:

Game knowledge in bronze is higher than that in silver.


quote:

That's retarded
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
57876 posts
Posted on 5/2/16 at 5:53 pm to
When's the last time you played a ranked game in bronze?
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
30189 posts
Posted on 5/2/16 at 7:15 pm to
Miss one binding at 4 minutes into the game and my adc goes apeshit and incredibly toxic for the rest of the game. In game 2 of my promos no less.
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
65805 posts
Posted on 5/2/16 at 7:16 pm to
I played with a guy last night that went 1-9 in promos on new account and got Silver 4. He was ungodly bad to no surprise.

The system is trash for new accounts.
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
30189 posts
Posted on 5/2/16 at 8:00 pm to
Been spamming Morgana for a week straight. Someone else picked her first in champ select for the first time.

Janna it is

ETA: Finally hit Silver 1. Have been absolutely ineffective at playing damage dealing roles these last few weeks. Figured I'd remedy my complaints of lack of vision and macro game and start playing support. It's worked thus far.

This post was edited on 5/3/16 at 7:09 am
Posted by Prettyboy Floyd
Pensacola, Florida
Member since Dec 2013
15660 posts
Posted on 5/3/16 at 10:55 am to
quote:

into the realm of intentionally feeding and throwing games.


Ive never seen him throw but he's intentionally toxic.

If you want to see someone throw the second they get irritated. TRM is that guy. That little weasel acts like a bitch. lol
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
65805 posts
Posted on 5/3/16 at 2:53 pm to
The new client looks sick as frick.
Posted by Mahootney
Lovin' My German Footprint
Member since Sep 2008
11875 posts
Posted on 5/3/16 at 5:17 pm to
Gonna finish my grad program today. Might have more time for league.

I've only been interested in playing Aram and rotating custom the past year. Anyone wanna duo to gold?
Posted by LSUSaintsHornets
Based Pelican
Member since Feb 2008
7309 posts
Posted on 5/3/16 at 5:38 pm to
This coming patch has changed essentially my entire mid champion pool and almost all of the items I buy on them
Champ by Champ
Vlad - Olaf'd. Loses spell vamp and increased healing on E AND damage reliability. Much less scary late and similar early.
Malz - By far the most changes. Loses enormous amounts of DMG but gains a possibly broken passive and lower mana costs. Was secret op previously (Even more so vs Burst Champs) and probably will still be really strong.
Cass - Loses all free stats from passive (25% CDR and 30%AP) but gains an item slot from passive. Lower DMG do to e going from .5 cd to .9 and a smaller AP ratio. Not sure how useful the grounding on w will be till I use it.
Brand - Possibly more DMG so scary.
Vel - True DMG lazer and proper AP scaling on ult and passive while only losing some waveclear. Going to be even more of a monster.
Posted by Mear
Member since Oct 2010
4836 posts
Posted on 5/3/16 at 5:53 pm to
just come play HOTS with me bro
Posted by LSUSaintsHornets
Based Pelican
Member since Feb 2008
7309 posts
Posted on 5/3/16 at 8:12 pm to
What's ur blizzard name?
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
65805 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 12:23 am to
CLG-RNG in 10 minutes to kick off MSI...will CLG even compete?

Stixxay quadra kill into Baron holy shite! ANOTHER STIXXAY QUADRA holy frick and misses the penta by one shot on Cait. This game is insane!

AAAND CLG throws the final fight RNG wins. ROFL NA frickING frick.
This post was edited on 5/4/16 at 1:52 am
Posted by Greace
Member since May 2009
4696 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 1:54 am to
Clg pulls off an NA loss. Throws after being 2 barons and an inhibitor ahead
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