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re: Official Dragon Age: Inquisition Nonstop Fapathon

Posted on 2/1/15 at 10:14 am to
Posted by Mr Gardoki
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Posted on 2/1/15 at 10:14 am to
Good then I won't feel back hanging out there. i did see a Dragon and got bitch slapped right away. I didn't go back to that area
Posted by Meursault
Nashville
Member since Sep 2003
25172 posts
Posted on 2/1/15 at 10:26 am to
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always clear the Hinterlands, then move to the Storm Coast to get Bull in my party. Clear out the Coast and move to the Fallow Mire and then the Oasis. Stick Crestwood somehwere in there. I always forget to find Varric on the ramparts to meet Hawk to get Crestwood opened up so I'm always way overpowered by the time I get to Crestwood.



That seems about right. I've actually never used Bull in any of my playthroughs. If I need a 2nd tank I've always preferred myself if I'm playing KE, or Cass.

I've decided to just finish up all the remaining stuff that's still available to me right now having finished all the MQ stuff. I'm going to do HW, finish up the Oasis, craft a bunch of shite for all party members, and hunt the remaining Dragons. Hell, might even re-spec my Rift Mage's skill points. I want to have finished everything that I can before DLC comes out.
Posted by auyushu
Surprise, AZ
Member since Jan 2011
8595 posts
Posted on 2/1/15 at 5:46 pm to
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That seems about right. I've actually never used Bull in any of my playthroughs. If I need a 2nd tank I've always preferred myself if I'm playing KE, or Cass.



I tend to grab Bull just because of the conversation and amusement factor. I just tend to make him battlemaster spec so he is somewhat useful as a buffer and crowd control person.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68508 posts
Posted on 2/2/15 at 8:32 pm to
My party 90% of the time is Blackwall, Iron Bull and Solas. I'm a Warrior myself. I never use Varric unless I have a door that needs to be opened.
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
39731 posts
Posted on 2/2/15 at 8:39 pm to
On nightmare, I switched Cassandra for Blackie. He seems to do more damage but I have no clue if that is true.

Always have bull but only use passive on his focus skill.

I used Solas on Normal and Hard so I switched to Viv on Nightmare.
Posted by Matisyeezy
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Member since Feb 2012
16624 posts
Posted on 2/2/15 at 8:54 pm to
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On nightmare, I switched Cassandra for Blackie. He seems to do more damage but I have no clue if that is true.



I feel Blackwall is just better built for tanking, but it's just a gut feeling. I can't prove it. I've been using Blackwall and Cassandra with Solas on my nightmare run. I'm a rogue. In a few more levels and for dragons I'm going to ditch Blackwall for Iron Bull. I'm intentional about using Solas thanks to the ending, I want to see more of his banter and interactions. I used Viv, Blackwall, and Serah on my first playthrough (Hard).
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
39731 posts
Posted on 2/2/15 at 9:31 pm to
On normal I didn't used bull.

On hard, I had to add him to kill the last Emprise dragon.

So on nightmare I felt it was best to roll with him.

When I need to open a stupid locked door I use Sera since on nightmare. Use her since I went with a Lesbo mage for my main.
Posted by Matisyeezy
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Member since Feb 2012
16624 posts
Posted on 2/2/15 at 9:42 pm to
Honestly on hard I rolled a KE and just solo'd everything. Whole party wipes? IDGAF. Just keep spirit blading and dropping fire mines. That being said, so far I've found nightmare to actually be easier, but I attribute that to being better at the game.
Posted by auyushu
Surprise, AZ
Member since Jan 2011
8595 posts
Posted on 2/2/15 at 9:59 pm to
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I feel Blackwall is just better built for tanking, but it's just a gut feeling. I can't prove it.


I actually find the opposite myself. With decent gear and +guard masterwork slots neither really is in danger of dying, so it comes down to the specialization. I find most of the Champion tanking abilities to be pretty meh. And the templar buffs I find pretty awesome. Blessed Blades, spell purge, and wrath of heaven are all pretty soild abilities, and she has the other buff skills in that tree as well.
This post was edited on 2/2/15 at 10:00 pm
Posted by Matisyeezy
End of the bar, Drunk
Member since Feb 2012
16624 posts
Posted on 2/2/15 at 11:06 pm to
To each their own. I hate warrior/tank characters. I never play them. EVER. DPS4Lyfe. On Hard I didn't craft, and Blackwall was consistently up in situations where Cass would fall. Blackwall's ability to generate guard was so extreme that it made my playing so much easier. I felt like Cass's ability definitely could enable her to deal out a little more pain, but against the high level mobs she would croak way too soon and I was trying to revive her. But that was just my playthrough and I honestly never analyzed the damage output/survivability.
Posted by Meursault
Nashville
Member since Sep 2003
25172 posts
Posted on 2/2/15 at 11:11 pm to
Decided to just go ahead and start a new nightmare run with the sword & shield reaver. I'll just take it slow, and make it a long-term project. I'm thinking my main party will be Cass, Bull, and Solas. Maybe Viv if I find myself getting destroyed. I'll bring in Sera occasionally to open doors for me.

I currently have 47/50 achievements. I lack Keymaster, Burning Wings, and Belle of the Ball, which is bullshite, because I had 100 court approval on my last run.
Posted by Meursault
Nashville
Member since Sep 2003
25172 posts
Posted on 2/2/15 at 11:13 pm to
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DPS4Lyfe.


That's what I usually go for as well. But so far I've played half the game as 2H warrior, half the game as dual-wield assassin, half the game as KE (got boring), and a full run on nightmare as Rift Mage, which was extremely fun.

EDIT: Also I'm going to try to not use Viv as much. She pretty much carried me through some of the nastier fights. Couldn't have done it without her, really.
This post was edited on 2/2/15 at 11:16 pm
Posted by auyushu
Surprise, AZ
Member since Jan 2011
8595 posts
Posted on 2/2/15 at 11:26 pm to
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To each their own. I hate warrior/tank characters. I never play them. EVER. DPS4Lyfe. On Hard I didn't craft, and Blackwall was consistently up in situations where Cass would fall.


Yeah, same here on tank characters, not my thing at all. The fact you didn't craft would be the main issue there, and I can see how Blackwall would stay alive better for you in that case, as the champion abilities are much better for keeping the single tank alive for sure (walking fortress by itself is ridiculous for that). But if you actually craft then Cass is not going to have any issues staying alive even on nightmare against dragons.

And in that case her 15% buff to group damage, 10% increase to electric/fire/ice/spirit resist for the party, huge damage to spell shields with spell surge/shatter, and destroying demons and stunning groups of enemies for 6 seconds at a time with wrath of heaven is huge. I find she really gets tremendously better than Blackwall at around level 11-12 or so once you can fill out the templar tree and have some key vanguard abilities.
Posted by auyushu
Surprise, AZ
Member since Jan 2011
8595 posts
Posted on 2/2/15 at 11:34 pm to
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Decided to just go ahead and start a new nightmare run with the sword & shield reaver. I'll just take it slow, and make it a long-term project.



Yeah, I was going to do a Knight enchanter nightmare run after I finished my current archer run on hard, but after switching my archer to nightmare at around level 15 I realize that would be way too easy and boring, so I think I'll probably run as a warrior myself, though I think I'll do a TH war/templar run rather than a tank.

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I'm thinking my main party will be Cass, Bull, and Solas. Maybe Viv if I find myself getting destroyed. I'll bring in Sera occasionally to open doors for me.


Just curious, but why use two tanks if you yourself are going to be the main one? I think Sera would make an awesome third for that group. If you spec her daggers and make lightning elixir and fire elixir her priorities along with Twin Fangs she will do ridiculous damage. And if you give her two points in stealth and +3 guard on hit her survivability is much better than Bull.
Posted by Meursault
Nashville
Member since Sep 2003
25172 posts
Posted on 2/3/15 at 8:35 am to
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Just curious, but why use two tanks if you yourself are going to be the main one?


Because I want to use Bull. No other reason than that!

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If you spec her daggers and make lightning elixir and fire elixir her priorities along with Twin Fangs she will do ridiculous damage. And if you give her two points in stealth and +3 guard on hit her survivability is much better than Bull.


This seems very strong. And the AI controls her well enough? I may have to try this now, and switch up Cass and Bull occasionally.

EDIT: Actually I guess AI doesn't really matter all that much since I pretty much do all combat in tactical view.
This post was edited on 2/3/15 at 8:43 am
Posted by auyushu
Surprise, AZ
Member since Jan 2011
8595 posts
Posted on 2/3/15 at 6:23 pm to
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Because I want to use Bull. No other reason than that!


Oh, I meant why are you using Cass, not Bull. I figured you could use yourself/Bull/Sera/caster and have a strong group. I'm probably going to run that setup my next playthrough and have Bull be the tank once I get to Skyhold, just because I want Bull in my group.

quote:

This seems very strong. And the AI controls her well enough? I may have to try this now, and switch up Cass and Bull occasionally.


Yeah, the AI controls her well enough, I just turn everything off except lightning potion, fire potion, twin fangs, and stealth and she destroys things. Once you get her the +guard on hit she builds guard like crazy due to the fast attack speed. And since she's at melee with you and Bull she'll get hit with the shields a bunch too.

She's aother character that really takes off around level 11-12 once you can get her tempest abilities.
Posted by Carolina101
Lexington South Carolina
Member since Jul 2009
1154 posts
Posted on 2/8/15 at 8:11 am to
I just started a new character, making a reaver build on nightmare. I was caught off guard with how much more challenging it would be early in the game. I almost didn't not make it past that pride demon at the very beginning of the game. Now I have my specialazation though, and I'm wrecking shite.
Posted by Mr Gardoki
AL
Member since Apr 2010
27652 posts
Posted on 2/8/15 at 9:29 am to
Man I'm just happy that Iron Bull's camp reached out to me so I can go get him
Posted by Carolina101
Lexington South Carolina
Member since Jul 2009
1154 posts
Posted on 2/8/15 at 11:43 am to
Yes, I really like Iron Bull, but the problem is the AI doesn't control the reaver correctly. Also, I mainly only want to control my character so I just made a reaver, and he is pretty freaking powerful.
Posted by Mr Gardoki
AL
Member since Apr 2010
27652 posts
Posted on 2/8/15 at 11:58 am to
Yea I mainly just control my character.
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