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My first PC build. Judge it and advice is welcomed.
Posted on 2/25/15 at 10:00 pm
Posted on 2/25/15 at 10:00 pm
Motherboard:
MSI Micro ATX DDR3 1600 LGA 1150
Graphics Card:
EVGA GeForce GRX 750Ti 2GB GDDR5
HeatSink:
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO with 120mm fan
Drives:
SeaGate 2TB HDD
Crucial MX100 128GB Internal Solid State Drive
Power:
XFX 650w Full Wired 80+ bronze
Optics:
Asus 24x DVD-RW
Ram:
Corsair Vengeance Red 16G 1600 MHz
CPU:
Intel Core i5 Processor
Case:
Sentey Bx1 4237
Is this build powerful enough for current games? I'm currently playing games via steam on my Win7 OS on my Macbook Pro. (It's for school)
MSI Micro ATX DDR3 1600 LGA 1150
Graphics Card:
EVGA GeForce GRX 750Ti 2GB GDDR5
HeatSink:
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO with 120mm fan
Drives:
SeaGate 2TB HDD
Crucial MX100 128GB Internal Solid State Drive
Power:
XFX 650w Full Wired 80+ bronze
Optics:
Asus 24x DVD-RW
Ram:
Corsair Vengeance Red 16G 1600 MHz
CPU:
Intel Core i5 Processor
Case:
Sentey Bx1 4237
Is this build powerful enough for current games? I'm currently playing games via steam on my Win7 OS on my Macbook Pro. (It's for school)
This post was edited on 2/25/15 at 10:03 pm
Posted on 2/25/15 at 10:17 pm to TigerDik86
What's your budget?
Is this something you're building, or buying pre-built from CyberPower, iBuyPower, etc.?
Give me a budget, and use PCPartPicker to get specific model/prices.
And the 16GB of RAM needs to be cut in half, and that money put towards GPU.
Is this something you're building, or buying pre-built from CyberPower, iBuyPower, etc.?
Give me a budget, and use PCPartPicker to get specific model/prices.
And the 16GB of RAM needs to be cut in half, and that money put towards GPU.
This post was edited on 2/25/15 at 10:18 pm
Posted on 2/25/15 at 10:17 pm to TigerDik86
A 750ti?
My buddy just bought a 280X off eBay for $140, good god man.
My buddy just bought a 280X off eBay for $140, good god man.
This post was edited on 2/25/15 at 10:19 pm
Posted on 2/25/15 at 11:18 pm to ILikeLSUToo
My budget is <= $1100. Also, I'm building. Already purchased an antistatic wristband and case. 10-4 on RAM
Posted on 2/25/15 at 11:32 pm to ILikeLSUToo
I hate to be a dick but...
quote:
750ti
This post was edited on 2/25/15 at 11:35 pm
Posted on 2/26/15 at 12:04 am to TigerDik86
I have the same graphics card in my build, lol. but with an i7 3770K CPU with 16 g of ram.. but I don't game. You can play all your games with it no doubt.
I guess they may suggest you get the GTX 960 for $40 bucks more? I am not sure, but this 750ti is a very efficient card for the price.. It uses very little power, runs extremely cool and is quiet, and plays most games at their highest settings without any hiccups. i guess you should consider the 960 for the price and so maybe they'll stop laughing at you. It's only like $200 I think. I see no complaints from people with it..
I also have the Corsair Hydro Series H90 140 mm High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler and LOVE it (had to modify my case to fit lol but was worth it.. I have had the Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO and it's nice, but I think I didn't like how it fit in my particular case.
I think for the budget you are being very realistic and hope it all comes out great for you.
I guess they may suggest you get the GTX 960 for $40 bucks more? I am not sure, but this 750ti is a very efficient card for the price.. It uses very little power, runs extremely cool and is quiet, and plays most games at their highest settings without any hiccups. i guess you should consider the 960 for the price and so maybe they'll stop laughing at you. It's only like $200 I think. I see no complaints from people with it..
I also have the Corsair Hydro Series H90 140 mm High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler and LOVE it (had to modify my case to fit lol but was worth it.. I have had the Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO and it's nice, but I think I didn't like how it fit in my particular case.
I think for the budget you are being very realistic and hope it all comes out great for you.
Posted on 2/26/15 at 6:28 am to SouljaBreauxTellEm
quote:
I guess they may suggest you get the GTX 960 for $40 bucks more? I am not sure, but this 750ti is a very efficient card for the price.. It uses very little power, runs extremely cool and is quiet, and plays most games at their highest settings without any hiccups. i guess you should consider the 960 for the price and so maybe they'll stop laughing at you. It's only like $200 I think. I see no complaints from people with it..
No...just no. There are much better GPU values out there that perform way better. There is no way you are pushing games like BF4, Arma 3, etc to max settings and getting decent frame rates.
Posted on 2/26/15 at 8:55 am to stout
I'm going to go with a GTX 960 GPU for a wee bit more.
Posted on 2/26/15 at 8:57 am to TigerDik86
That's not too bad. Total cost = $939.16 and I'm under budget.
Posted on 2/26/15 at 8:59 am to TigerDik86
I would hold off on ordering just yet, these guys on here know their shite and will get you the best bang for your buck.
Posted on 2/26/15 at 11:16 am to TigerDik86
For a $1000 build, you can do better than a 960.
PCPartPicker part list: LINK
Price breakdown by merchant: LINK /
CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.95 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI Z97 PC MATE ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($96.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($61.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Crucial MX100 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($64.95 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: HIS Radeon R9 290X 4GB IceQ X² Video Card ($313.11 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.98 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($71.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $996.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-02-26 12:15 EST-0500
PCPartPicker part list: LINK
Price breakdown by merchant: LINK /
CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.95 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI Z97 PC MATE ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($96.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($61.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Crucial MX100 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($64.95 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: HIS Radeon R9 290X 4GB IceQ X² Video Card ($313.11 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.98 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($71.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $996.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-02-26 12:15 EST-0500
Posted on 2/26/15 at 8:40 pm to UltimateHog
Seconded. Never go less than an X60 on Nvidia cards if you are serious about gaming.
Posted on 2/26/15 at 8:49 pm to DrSteveBrule
But also, spend no less than 25% of your budget on the GPU.
Posted on 2/27/15 at 11:07 am to ILikeLSUToo
Thank you so much for the list. The only thing that I've purchased already was the case. I will follow your list and am appreciative that you made one.
Since I'm not the richest man in the world, I'll post pics of my build in a few months.
Have a great day!
Posted on 2/28/15 at 10:47 am to TigerDik86
quote:
Is this build powerful enough for current games?
completely depends on what "current game" you want to play and what settings you would consider "minimum".
It should certainly play most games, assume you play something like DayZ, CoD or Skyrim but it would still depend on settings.
You're now entering a world were you will discover many things, like little known Windows-USB hardware compatibility issues, not all manufacturer's claim are even remotely true and so forth. For one, most Power Supplies aren't rated in True RMS value which means you probably aren't even close to what you think you are in power delivery.
Good luck!
Posted on 2/28/15 at 11:37 am to Jagd Tiger
quote:
For one, most Power Supplies aren't rated in True RMS value which means you probably aren't even close to what you think you are in power delivery.
Aside from knowing the quality manufacturers, you have to know which PSUs deliver most of their power on the 12v rail (based on amperage), which is what most of the major power-hungry components draw from. In addition, take into consideration that depending on its 80+ rating and load, up to 20% of its wattage is lost as heat. Knowing those things makes it easy to find an appropriate PSU.
Posted on 2/28/15 at 2:10 pm to ILikeLSUToo
memory draws from 5 volt as well as the cpu cores, either way most PSU company's badly exaggerate the power they deliver. It's not easy to find a PSU that is actually capable of what the advertising promises.
Posted on 2/28/15 at 3:42 pm to Jagd Tiger
... And here we go.
No they do not and have not for a long time.
Sort of true, given the vast number of names out there and the potential for total wattage to be misleading regarding peak vs. continuous and how much amperage is on the 12v rail (which is, as I said, the most important rail). However...
Yes, it is. Sure, there are a ton of crap brands that have bad build quality, poor efficiency, no protection circuits, etc. Knowing what brands are good and which ones to avoid is the biggest hurdle. A simple google search would give you that information. For example, if you buy a PSU from any of the following brands:
Antec
Corsair
Enermax
PC Power & Cooling
Seasonic
Silverstone
XFX
you'll be fine. And there is an even longer list of brands that sell at least one good line of PSUs made by a trusted manufacturer. As far as delivering advertised wattage, it would be stupid to get a 500W PSU for a system that draws 500W, doesn't matter what brand we're talking about. You have to account for power factor/energy loss from heat, capacitor aging over time, and, optionally, overclocking and future upgrades/additions that require more power. You actually want the PSU to last a little while.
Simply, calculate total wattage of system, and add 50% or more to that, and pick a trusted brand. Simple as that. It will deliver most of its rated wattage on the 12v rail, as it should, but still easily split more than enough power for the minor shite on the lesser rails.
The system I configured for OP would draw roughly 500W at stock under full load.
So let's add 50% to that for 750W total. Now, let's go to PCPartPicker and adjust our filter for 750W PSUs under the brands listed above:
All of these (and those not captured in the screenshot) would be fine.
If you want to spend an extra few minutes to find a trusted manufacturer under a different brand than those stated above, you'd find an EVGA SuperNOVA NEX for $10 less than the Corsair at the top of the list. To make things even simpler, there's a tiered list of PSU brands and models that's been around for years and is still highly relevant. LINK
Finding an appropriate PSU is extremely important, but it doesn't have to be difficult.
quote:
memory draws from 5 volt as well as the cpu cores
No they do not and have not for a long time.
quote:
either way most PSU company's badly exaggerate the power they deliver.
Sort of true, given the vast number of names out there and the potential for total wattage to be misleading regarding peak vs. continuous and how much amperage is on the 12v rail (which is, as I said, the most important rail). However...
quote:
It's not easy to find a PSU that is actually capable of what the advertising promises.
Yes, it is. Sure, there are a ton of crap brands that have bad build quality, poor efficiency, no protection circuits, etc. Knowing what brands are good and which ones to avoid is the biggest hurdle. A simple google search would give you that information. For example, if you buy a PSU from any of the following brands:
Antec
Corsair
Enermax
PC Power & Cooling
Seasonic
Silverstone
XFX
you'll be fine. And there is an even longer list of brands that sell at least one good line of PSUs made by a trusted manufacturer. As far as delivering advertised wattage, it would be stupid to get a 500W PSU for a system that draws 500W, doesn't matter what brand we're talking about. You have to account for power factor/energy loss from heat, capacitor aging over time, and, optionally, overclocking and future upgrades/additions that require more power. You actually want the PSU to last a little while.
Simply, calculate total wattage of system, and add 50% or more to that, and pick a trusted brand. Simple as that. It will deliver most of its rated wattage on the 12v rail, as it should, but still easily split more than enough power for the minor shite on the lesser rails.
The system I configured for OP would draw roughly 500W at stock under full load.
So let's add 50% to that for 750W total. Now, let's go to PCPartPicker and adjust our filter for 750W PSUs under the brands listed above:
All of these (and those not captured in the screenshot) would be fine.
If you want to spend an extra few minutes to find a trusted manufacturer under a different brand than those stated above, you'd find an EVGA SuperNOVA NEX for $10 less than the Corsair at the top of the list. To make things even simpler, there's a tiered list of PSU brands and models that's been around for years and is still highly relevant. LINK
Finding an appropriate PSU is extremely important, but it doesn't have to be difficult.
This post was edited on 2/28/15 at 3:44 pm
Posted on 2/28/15 at 5:33 pm to ILikeLSUToo
My guru buddy taught me how to build about 15 years ago.
Tom's Hardware website always has helpful info. Graphics cards can be tricky, because many times their model numbers in no way correlate to performance. This chart is super helpful.
Graphic Card Hierarchy Chart
I've ordered components from Newegg, MWave, & Tiger Direct and always been pleased.
Tom's Hardware website always has helpful info. Graphics cards can be tricky, because many times their model numbers in no way correlate to performance. This chart is super helpful.
Graphic Card Hierarchy Chart
I've ordered components from Newegg, MWave, & Tiger Direct and always been pleased.
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