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re: Military FPS Games Need New Blood

Posted on 1/9/14 at 9:29 am to
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 1/9/14 at 9:29 am to
There's a certain crowd of gamers here who have an aversion to anything space or fantasy related. They just won't touch it regardless of how great the game is.

Bro-gamers, I guess.
Posted by dcrews
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Posted on 1/9/14 at 9:36 am to
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There's a certain crowd of gamers here who have an aversion to anything space or fantasy related. They just won't touch it regardless of how great the game is.


Can't speak for everyone, but for me personally, it's just not my cup of tea. I equate it to gamers who love sports games but prefer madden/NCAA over Hockey or Soccer games (or vice versa). Modern day warfare is as far as I'll go for FPS.

Not saying they are bad games, but futuristic warfare and weaponry do not interest me in the slightest.
This post was edited on 1/9/14 at 9:37 am
Posted by The Sad Banana
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Posted on 1/9/14 at 9:42 am to
The point I'm trying to make is that CoD and Battlefield are what they are and I'm not trying to change those games, but make a better Frankengame.

This is where I applaud and loathe Warfighter. Warfighter did what I wanted, just not with the end result being buttery smooth, pretty or well-designed.

Warfighter did excellent in:

Guns
Blue on blue fighting
Game modes

The guns feel amazing. Really, they feel perfect. And the attachments alter the guns a little allowing you to have an authentic feel--the sights and stocks make the most difference with the muzzle attachments and barrels tweaking your accuracy. It's real. And it works very well.

That game just failed in too many areas for the mass market EA was going after to stay alive. It's a shame. The core of that game was really good.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
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Posted on 1/9/14 at 9:48 am to
Sounds like you want something similar to the old America's Army. That game was awesome, and free too!
Posted by The Sad Banana
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Posted on 1/9/14 at 10:11 am to
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Just taking out snipers isn't going to fix the genre. I know you're not a COD guy, but the super marathon akimbo knifey guys are just as big of a headache to me.


Get rid of perks, like the ones that allow you to perform outside of the bounds of a normal soldier. If you're going to fall 3 stories, heck yeah you need to take some serious damage if not die.
I think you have a great point. And I've long hated perks. They're really stupid. Perks go hand in hand with the akimbo knife guys...if you want to run with just a knife in this new game, fine. But you can't teleport with it and you certainly can't do it while getting shot.

I rethought the thing about picking up ammo. I'd much rather you not be able to pick up other guys' weapons. But, when you walk over them it does add rounds to your inventory if you need it. But I like the second part about tossing your buddy a mag.
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 1/9/14 at 10:14 am to
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But I like the second part about tossing your buddy a mag.


Curious how this would work. Like one player hits a button requesting ammo, and you get a prompt asking if you want to give any.

I wouldn't be surprised if that pops up in a shooter soon. Seems like something that would have popped up by now. Or maybe it has in a game I haven't played.
Posted by hg
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Posted on 1/9/14 at 10:14 am to
Seriously, where does Battlefield even go next. The last 3 have been set in modern times (I think). There's only so much you can add. If you go to the future that opens up so many question marks. It may be time to go back to WWII.

With that said I'm going to pickup my BF4 copy.
This post was edited on 1/9/14 at 10:18 am
Posted by The Sad Banana
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Posted on 1/9/14 at 10:19 am to
Probably to Bad Company. I think they tried to do too much with BF4. Less is more sometimes. Like the specializations...it's kinda complicated and people really don't even know how or what they do.

Instead of eliminating them and making it simpler, they just went ahead and muddied it all up and made it derpier.
Posted by The Sad Banana
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Posted on 1/9/14 at 10:20 am to
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Curious how this would work. Like one player hits a button requesting ammo, and you get a prompt asking if you want to give any.
Yeah, it'd take some coordination and timing. Imagine that!
Posted by hg
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Posted on 1/9/14 at 10:21 am to
Yep. BF3 just felt so perfect.
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 1/9/14 at 10:24 am to
Well it has to be simplified, not like the trade system in other games.

-request trade

-wait for player to see trade request

-player accepts trade request

-look through inventory to find trade item and drop in to box

-click "complete trade"

-wait for player to accept trade



Needs to be boom, boom, done.
Posted by Master Guilbeau
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 1/9/14 at 10:32 am to
Totally need more fps games. There's like, none.
Posted by hg
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Posted on 1/9/14 at 10:36 am to
Walk over ammunition/mags that don't go to your gun you can still collect it

When next to a teammate and they have that type of ammo "hold A" to give it to them.
Posted by The Sad Banana
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Posted on 1/9/14 at 10:37 am to
quote:

Well it has to be simplified, not like the trade system in other games.

-request trade

-wait for player to see trade request

-player accepts trade request

-look through inventory to find trade item and drop in to box

-click "complete trade"

-wait for player to accept trade



Needs to be boom, boom, done
I need ammo. Hit X to request, hit X to give. Boom.

Or, have ammo packs to drop or just strategically placed ammo caches.
Posted by GrammarKnotsi
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 1/9/14 at 10:39 am to
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Military FPS Games Need New Blood


Thoughts on Ghost Recon ?
Posted by The Sad Banana
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Posted on 1/9/14 at 10:48 am to
Ghost Recon was okay. It was a solid effort, really. And a good start. But it's being drug down by being a TPS.
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
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Posted on 1/9/14 at 10:55 am to
TPS > FPS
Posted by MintBerry Crunch
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Posted on 1/9/14 at 11:05 am to
Step 1: Get a computer

Step 2: Play Arma II/III Wasteland
Posted by Mizzoufan26
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 1/9/14 at 11:27 am to
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I think it's time for COD or BF to go back to WWII era. The new tech would allow for greater immersion and the gamer can take a break from all of the future weapon technology bullshite going on in these games.


Agreed.

I still enjoy those versions more than this stuff now days.
Posted by LewDawg
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 1/9/14 at 11:40 am to
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