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Mass Effect 3 - Spoilers
Posted on 5/8/15 at 10:33 pm
Posted on 5/8/15 at 10:33 pm
Well, my journey has come to an end.
Wow. I'm actually glad I waited to play them because it was a blast playing all 3 in a row.
Mass Effect had a good story and the fights were mostly fun but the clunky mako missions and horrible inventory omni gel system were a pain.
Mass Effect 2 improved greatly on the story and supporting cast. Truly fantastic game. The AI was vastly improved for both the teammates and the enemy. Vast improvement with the inventory system but the game lost some of the rpg elements.
And now.....
Wait for it.....
Wait for it........
Wait for it..........
Wait for it............
Why did you guys hate 3? Sorry Scruffy, I liked it. A lot.
I liked it almost as much as 2. The key weakness being the limited teammates weren't nearly as much fun as ME2.
Combat was even more difficult with much longer fights. Inventory system while changed, it was still easy to understand.
Heck, I was still emotionally involved. When Mordin died, someone was chopping onions. I was a bit of a cad and I booted Miranda but I didn't like seeing her die.
Anderson dying sucked. Admiral Hackett should have died. I always felt he was working for the Illusive Man. He never seemed in any danger.
Most of the game, I didn't really buy Cerberus attacking and helping the Reapers but I came to realize it was true to what would have happened. His thirst for power led to his indoctrination. Too easy for him to believe he could control everything.
Cortez was lucky to have made it that long given that he flew into the maw of hell 40 times.
The worst part of my final decision was wiping out EDI. I was going to steal her from Joker if I lived.
I really don't get the hate for this game. I have no problem with Shepard dying at the end.
I guess I can see people pissed with the alternate endings and the only way to have Shep survive, you have to play the stupid multiplayer crap.
I thought it had more impact with Shep dying so it didn't bug me at all.
I can't stop playing the ending song from ME1.
Not sure where they will go with ME4. The Rise of our new overlord machines?
Not sure I've ever been as entertained for only $20 which was the cost of the 3 pack.
Wow. I'm actually glad I waited to play them because it was a blast playing all 3 in a row.
Mass Effect had a good story and the fights were mostly fun but the clunky mako missions and horrible inventory omni gel system were a pain.
Mass Effect 2 improved greatly on the story and supporting cast. Truly fantastic game. The AI was vastly improved for both the teammates and the enemy. Vast improvement with the inventory system but the game lost some of the rpg elements.
And now.....
Wait for it.....
Wait for it........
Wait for it..........
Wait for it............
Why did you guys hate 3? Sorry Scruffy, I liked it. A lot.
I liked it almost as much as 2. The key weakness being the limited teammates weren't nearly as much fun as ME2.
Combat was even more difficult with much longer fights. Inventory system while changed, it was still easy to understand.
Heck, I was still emotionally involved. When Mordin died, someone was chopping onions. I was a bit of a cad and I booted Miranda but I didn't like seeing her die.
Anderson dying sucked. Admiral Hackett should have died. I always felt he was working for the Illusive Man. He never seemed in any danger.
Most of the game, I didn't really buy Cerberus attacking and helping the Reapers but I came to realize it was true to what would have happened. His thirst for power led to his indoctrination. Too easy for him to believe he could control everything.
Cortez was lucky to have made it that long given that he flew into the maw of hell 40 times.
The worst part of my final decision was wiping out EDI. I was going to steal her from Joker if I lived.
I really don't get the hate for this game. I have no problem with Shepard dying at the end.
I guess I can see people pissed with the alternate endings and the only way to have Shep survive, you have to play the stupid multiplayer crap.
I thought it had more impact with Shep dying so it didn't bug me at all.
I can't stop playing the ending song from ME1.
Not sure where they will go with ME4. The Rise of our new overlord machines?
Not sure I've ever been as entertained for only $20 which was the cost of the 3 pack.
This post was edited on 5/8/15 at 10:37 pm
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Posted on 5/8/15 at 10:35 pm to TigerMyth36
My only real beef with 3 would be those pain in the arse slow mo dreams and the slow mo at the end.
Posted on 5/8/15 at 10:38 pm to TigerMyth36
Prepare to for disagreement. People are upset that BioWare oversold the effect choices would have on the ending, and they were too ambitious. But I loved the entire series.
Posted on 5/8/15 at 10:38 pm to TigerMyth36
quote:
Why did you guys hate 3?
I enjoyed it a lot more than Mass Effect 2, especially playing them one after the other and buying the Citadel DLC.
What I didn't like was how the dialogue tree felt like it had fewer choices than the previous games and a lot of the choices I made in previous games were retconned (ie Councilor Anderson was back in the military at the start of the third game with the only explanation being in a codex piece).
The ending was certainly not as satisfying as it should have been. There are other games with unsatisfying endings (hello Last of Us), but I think most people just expected a lot more since the first two games are generally regarded as some peoples' absolute favorite games of all time.
Even with the extended ending, the entire idea of the star child and the choices presented near the end of the game just didn't feel right.
Posted on 5/8/15 at 10:43 pm to sbr2
quote:
Prepare to for disagreement.
Don't care. Had fun.
Most sci-fi movies end with a deus ex machina event like Star Wars twice easily destroying a planetary weapon so the crucible seemed normal sci-fi to me.
The only hiccup with my playthrough was I made Anderson the Council member and instead Udina was council member in 3. Other than that, I didn't have any consistency problems that I can remember.
Posted on 5/8/15 at 10:45 pm to sbr2
quote:My only beef here was that the only way to save Shep was to play the online crap.
People are upset that BioWare oversold the effect choices would have on the ending, and they were too ambitious.
But as I said, I had no problem with Shep dying. So many others went before him.
Garrus, Thane, Talia, Jack, Miranda, Mordin to name a few. I can live with Shep passing. And.... do we know he is really dead or just mostly dead.
Posted on 5/8/15 at 11:28 pm to TigerMyth36
Why did you guys hate 3? Sorry Scruffy, I liked it. A lot.
So you didn't care that not a single choice you made in ME1 or 2 mattered? Or that the 3 choices you had at the end made no sense and made sure that the reapers won no matter what choice you made? ME3, outside of the mordin and garrus send offs is one of the worst trilogy endings ever......
That's not the issue at all. I could live with Shep dying if it made sense in the narrative arc but it doesn't mesh with the 3 choices you get at the end. I will go to my grave believing in the "indoctrination theory."
That said, I will buy ME4 on launch day.
So you didn't care that not a single choice you made in ME1 or 2 mattered? Or that the 3 choices you had at the end made no sense and made sure that the reapers won no matter what choice you made? ME3, outside of the mordin and garrus send offs is one of the worst trilogy endings ever......
quote:
I thought it had more impact with Shep dying so it didn't bug me at all.
That's not the issue at all. I could live with Shep dying if it made sense in the narrative arc but it doesn't mesh with the 3 choices you get at the end. I will go to my grave believing in the "indoctrination theory."
That said, I will buy ME4 on launch day.
This post was edited on 5/8/15 at 11:31 pm
Posted on 5/8/15 at 11:39 pm to MFn GIMP
quote:I don't buy this at all. I see some people think this and many don't. I don't see the reapers being destroyed is a win for them.
Or that the 3 choices you had at the end made no sense and made sure that the reapers won no matter what choice you made?
Controlling them could have been iffy. Maybe you would be controlling them and maybe not. Maybe it would be indoctrination. I never hesitated to kill them.
I didn't get the synthetic option. Wouldn't have taken that route because clearly that would be a win for the reapers in my book.
quote:In the context of those games every choice mattered or I wouldn't have been alive to get to ME3. I don't get this argument at all.
So you didn't care that not a single choice you made in ME1 or 2 mattered
quote:How do they make no sense. Either kill the reapers, merge with them or control them. All 3 make plenty of sense using the standard deus ex machina.
3 choices you had at the end made no sense
Also, the ending took about 3 minutes out of a 35 hour game. Even if I agreed the ending sucked, I had fun for 35 hours.
Posted on 5/8/15 at 11:45 pm to TigerMyth36
I welcome the next generation AI overlords.
This post was edited on 5/8/15 at 11:46 pm
Posted on 5/8/15 at 11:46 pm to TigerMyth36
I had a feeling this would be the opinion of the select few that weren't with the franchise from at least ME2 before release.
Before, we heard a bunch of promises about how the ending would be this big epic event vs the Reapers. Basically, we were lead to believe it'd be like the Collector Base, choosing what each faction would be doing and needing to play to each groups strengths and weaknesses, building up the resources, etc.
But instead, it was all of your choices for one very good cutscene of the attack, a couple intense missions on the ground, and a one long sequence where you get to pick a red, green, or blue ending.
That last bit was almost explicitely said they wouldn't do it.
Also, you didn't get to see the original release ending. Where basically, no matter what you do, no matter how high your war assets, you basically doom the Citadel races.
The mass relays explode, instead of just being badly damaged. And if you played the Arrival DLC on ME2, you know that destroying a mass relay is pretty much like setting off a supernova.
So the Earth was probably destroyed, along with every meaningful character save whoever was on the Normandy, which just abandons Shepard and crash lands on a random planet.
Thankfully, the Extended Cut provided much needed closure, but it was done via still images and a voice over.
It tainted the ending for me, but my GOD was the ride still awesome.
I am almost certain they'll bring the whole trilogy to PS4 and Xbone in preparation for the next ME game. And I will absolutely cop it again.
Before, we heard a bunch of promises about how the ending would be this big epic event vs the Reapers. Basically, we were lead to believe it'd be like the Collector Base, choosing what each faction would be doing and needing to play to each groups strengths and weaknesses, building up the resources, etc.
But instead, it was all of your choices for one very good cutscene of the attack, a couple intense missions on the ground, and a one long sequence where you get to pick a red, green, or blue ending.
That last bit was almost explicitely said they wouldn't do it.
Also, you didn't get to see the original release ending. Where basically, no matter what you do, no matter how high your war assets, you basically doom the Citadel races.
The mass relays explode, instead of just being badly damaged. And if you played the Arrival DLC on ME2, you know that destroying a mass relay is pretty much like setting off a supernova.
So the Earth was probably destroyed, along with every meaningful character save whoever was on the Normandy, which just abandons Shepard and crash lands on a random planet.
Thankfully, the Extended Cut provided much needed closure, but it was done via still images and a voice over.
It tainted the ending for me, but my GOD was the ride still awesome.
I am almost certain they'll bring the whole trilogy to PS4 and Xbone in preparation for the next ME game. And I will absolutely cop it again.
Posted on 5/8/15 at 11:51 pm to Eman5805
I was trying to find the original ending. I wasn't sure where the original ended and the alternate started.
I could see people being dismayed if it appeared everyone was dead.
I still wouldn't have cared too much. The whole series was bleak with people dying so a bleak ending with the reapers gone, would still be a win for me.
As I said, 5 minutes at the end isn't going to ruin the 35 hours of fun up to the ending.
And it was a fun game all the way from start to end. The combat was intense on normal. I don't see how people survive on harder difficulties.
I could see people being dismayed if it appeared everyone was dead.
I still wouldn't have cared too much. The whole series was bleak with people dying so a bleak ending with the reapers gone, would still be a win for me.
As I said, 5 minutes at the end isn't going to ruin the 35 hours of fun up to the ending.
And it was a fun game all the way from start to end. The combat was intense on normal. I don't see how people survive on harder difficulties.
This post was edited on 5/8/15 at 11:53 pm
Posted on 5/9/15 at 1:41 am to TigerMyth36
quote:
So you didn't care that not a single choice you made in ME1 or 2 mattered
In the context of those games every choice mattered or I wouldn't have been alive to get to ME3. I don't get this argument at all.
Except they shoehorned you into a linear path that devalued the actions from previous games that supposedly possessed galaxy-wide ramifications. Case in point -- I'm going to kill the last living Rachni Queen in ME1. Okay, cool. Guess what's still going to magically pop up in ME3? Sure, it's possible there could have been one elsewhere, okay. But don't sell it to me like that. And if I let her live, don't give me a scene in ME2 where she's talking to me about being all peaceful and shite, implying that they are somehow consequential for the "good guys."
That's just one example, there are absolutely others.
Posted on 5/9/15 at 9:47 am to Matisyeezy
as the smart people have said, ME3 was a good game by itself, but no choice you made in 1,2, or 3 affected the ending and that was a major selling point. The ending before the redo was horrid.
Posted on 5/9/15 at 9:51 am to Matisyeezy
Has to be emphasized, that what they gave us at the end was not what they promised. Even though that's not how game development actually works, a bunch of people were upset when it was announced they were adding a multiplayer component to a game series that had always been single player only.
That the resources being devoted to a feature no one wanted, and a lot just assumed would be terrible, could've gone into the ending everyone wanted.
Also, a ton of the original script was leaked and it seems that a bunch of storylines and deaths were written out.
And a rumor was out that they wanted to push the release back a few months so they could polish some things, but EA is all about their marketing and specific windows for release. They wanted an early 2012 release, everything else be damned.
That the resources being devoted to a feature no one wanted, and a lot just assumed would be terrible, could've gone into the ending everyone wanted.
Also, a ton of the original script was leaked and it seems that a bunch of storylines and deaths were written out.
And a rumor was out that they wanted to push the release back a few months so they could polish some things, but EA is all about their marketing and specific windows for release. They wanted an early 2012 release, everything else be damned.
Posted on 5/9/15 at 4:15 pm to TigerMyth36
quote:
Not sure where they will go with ME4. The Rise of our new overlord machines?
Check this thread out I started
LINK
This post was edited on 5/9/15 at 5:13 pm
Posted on 5/9/15 at 4:27 pm to Byron Bojangles III
Post a link! From what I remember the new game will be set in a new Galaxy?
Posted on 5/9/15 at 5:12 pm to sbr2
I thought I did 
it's up
it's up
Posted on 5/9/15 at 8:00 pm to TigerMyth36
That is all you get. Scruffy ain't going into this again.
Posted on 5/9/15 at 8:40 pm to Scruffy
Nothing to go into. A 5 minute ending doesn't ruin a fun game and I had zero problem with the ending.
Posted on 5/9/15 at 8:42 pm to TigerMyth36
I had issues with the story long before the ending.
Dammit! I will not be dragged back into this!
Dammit! I will not be dragged back into this!
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