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re: I really don't get the fascination with exclusives

Posted on 6/13/17 at 1:24 pm to
Posted by CockCommander
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Posted on 6/13/17 at 1:24 pm to
Then your point is incorrect.
Posted by Mystery
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Posted on 6/13/17 at 1:25 pm to
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The only way your statement is true is if the cost to put it out on PC and XBOX exceeds the money they would make.


Are you kidding me? It is not that simple as how many copies of last of us will sell.

By having games like Last of Us only on your platform you push sales of the console.

That is more important. They make money on way more things than just game sales.
This post was edited on 6/13/17 at 1:26 pm
Posted by The Quiet One
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Posted on 6/13/17 at 1:26 pm to
There's nothing to explain. You made an asinine statement. Sony has games available exclusive to their console in direct competition with Microsoft and Nintendo. You have choices. Lots of them. That's about as consumer-friendly as it gets.

If you feel that Sony's library of games on a given platform isn't strong enough for you to purchase its system, then don't. Chevy doesn't offer On-Star in Ford vehicles. Five Guys isn't offering its burgers at McDonald's. You're not calling Papa Johns and ordering a steak platter from Outback.
Posted by Mystery
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Posted on 6/13/17 at 1:26 pm to
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Then your point is incorrect.


How so?

As I have stated twice already but you refuse to see is they make more money off of the game being exclusive than if they sold more copies of it.
Posted by CockCommander
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Posted on 6/13/17 at 1:27 pm to
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The Quiet One


My point isn't "asinine" but that's a fair argument you've made.
Posted by CockCommander
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Posted on 6/13/17 at 1:28 pm to
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As I have stated twice already but you refuse to see is they make more money off of the game being exclusive than if they sold more copies of it.


I understand your point, I just don't think that's true.
Posted by DoUrden
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Posted on 6/13/17 at 1:28 pm to
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Are you kidding me? It is not that simple as how many copies of last of us will sell.

By having games like Last of Us only on your platform you push sales of the console.

That is more important. They make money on way more things than just game sales.


You must have started your reply before my edit.
Posted by Mystery
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Posted on 6/13/17 at 1:33 pm to
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EXCEPT if it affected console sales, but I was under the impression that the margins for the consoles are pretty tight .


They probably make a good amount of profit per console at this point. At launch it would have been tight.

But that is not even the beginning. By having more consoles out there, they make more money. They make profit on more ps plus users, more accessories sold, more software sales, more movies rented, more movies bought, more PS VUE subscriptions etc etc...
This post was edited on 6/13/17 at 1:34 pm
Posted by CockCommander
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Posted on 6/13/17 at 1:34 pm to
I'm not sure I'm convinced but a few interesting responses have been made in this thread. Thank you for your responses.
Posted by Mystery
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Posted on 6/13/17 at 1:35 pm to
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I understand your point, I just don't think that's true.


Well you are wrong. And there is nothing I can say.


But yes in a perfect world all games could be played on all consoles.
Posted by Freauxzen
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Posted on 6/13/17 at 1:42 pm to
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The business might make sense


This is all that matters.

I have a beef with third party exclusivity, but it does make sense. It sucks that the market has to play the game that way. And as someone who prefers Nintendo over MS/Sony - I've come to peace with it. My Switch gets more play than my X1 anyways.

But I do loathe exclusive content with the fire of 1000 suns.
This post was edited on 6/13/17 at 1:44 pm
Posted by Dr RC
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 6/13/17 at 1:48 pm to
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Saying someone is entitled for not spending hundreds of dollars on a console none of his friends own or will ever own is completely insane. frick off.


Yes, you are entitled to whine that exclusives are somehow anti consumer. I guess it's anti consumer of FCA to not share UConnect with Honda, for Disney to not let Warner Bros use Mickey Mouse, and for the Cavs to not share LeBron w/other teams?

What's even funnier is the system w/the most exclusives out right now is also the one w/the highest sales by a LARGE margin. People are much more likely to have a friend own a PS4 that they can game with.

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You have yet to make an argument. All you have done is throw insults around because you are so insecure that criticism of Sony is taken as a personal attack. Pathetic.




If anything I'm a Nintendo gamer first baw. I have no special feels for Sony other than the tingle I get when I'm playing games like Uncharted.

Posted by willymeaux
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Posted on 6/13/17 at 1:58 pm to
Wow, now this socialist trend is spreading to the gaming world
Posted by oauron
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Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 6/13/17 at 2:59 pm to
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don't take Microsoft not having exclusives as a admittance that they just didn't "like" the idea of it... it is simply something that corporate didn't want them doing anymore. Corporate wanted Win10 to be a big deal, so now most of the "exclusives" are also on Win10 - that's the only reason.

Indeed. After the X1 stumbled out of the gate, they shifted focus to combining the Xbox platform with W10. It's a smart move for the future as the dedicated game industry shrinks.

Also, the fact that people push against exclusives is kinda weird. It'll only result in less competition and lower overall quality. I understand the distaste for paying for games to be done only on your platform. That practice has immensely declined in the past few years.
This post was edited on 6/13/17 at 3:06 pm
Posted by Freauxzen
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Posted on 6/13/17 at 3:43 pm to
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It's a smart move for the future as the dedicated game industry shrinks.


This is going to be interesting to watch. And yeah MS's Windows play could be a really nice buffer against that.

They are all taking three sort of different directions

Microsoft - Betting on W10 and Cross-Platform Play and Access
Nintendo - Bets on First Party and Portability, Looks like Licensing May be open soon as well - Ubi and previous Rare/Retro deals
Sony - Betting on Exclusives, VR
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