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Posted on 9/13/14 at 10:32 pm
Posted by tom
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2007
8156 posts
Posted on 9/13/14 at 10:32 pm
Holy crap this game is impossible for a simpleton like myself. I got around 100 dwarves, but I spent all my time building bedrooms for those frickers, and then I didn't have any food and elves attacked and killed half my dwarves. Has anyone figured this out? What have I done wrong?
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72061 posts
Posted on 9/13/14 at 10:37 pm to
I will say that that paragraph sounds hilarious.

I might look into this game.
Posted by tom
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2007
8156 posts
Posted on 9/13/14 at 11:17 pm to
I though I understood. Until elves took everything from me. frick elves.
Posted by HeavyCore
Member since Sep 2012
2552 posts
Posted on 9/13/14 at 11:25 pm to
Yeah. That game is hard as frick. Takes awhile just to understand what you're looking at on the screen.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51903 posts
Posted on 9/13/14 at 11:44 pm to
I love this game.

Been playing for years, and made a thread about it in the past. Didn't get much response here for it though.


It is without reservation the most complex video game in existence.

This post was edited on 9/13/14 at 11:46 pm
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51903 posts
Posted on 9/13/14 at 11:48 pm to
quote:

I will say that that paragraph sounds hilarious




Then you need to look into the game.

You actually need to expend effort to making high risk dwarves to be anti social loners because if not, then when they are killed because you dug too greedily and too deep, their buddies go ape shite in grief and kill someone next door minding their own business, which pisses off their entire family....




And this is an very minor aspect of the picture at whole.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51903 posts
Posted on 9/13/14 at 11:56 pm to
quote:

I got around 100 dwarves, but I spent all my time building bedrooms for those frickers, and then I didn't have any food and elves attacked and killed half my dwarves. Has anyone figured this out? What have I done wrong?


First step is building a food infrastructure. Those frickers can sleep on the ground at first. Keep in mind that a lot of triggers are attached to fortress wealth, so be careful of what you are doing. Especially when it comes to building, engraving rooms and such.

When you are at 25 dwarves or such, you need to start giving consideration to defense. You did something to piss those elves off, probably cut down too many trees or something. Or traded them something wooden. But even without that, you'll start getting thief raids long before then by Kolbolds, and you probably didn't even realize it.

When you start building wealth, you probably want to do it in large scale steel production. Its worth its weight in gold literally in game valuation, but at least when you start making your fortress value skyrocket, you are doing it with lots of pointy things.


And if any of this attracts the attention of newcomers to the game....for the love of God get a tileset for the game. Don't even try to waste time trying to train yourself to translate the Matrix code.

One bit of interest about this game: Mojang has been open about the fact that it provided the inspiration for Minecraft.
Posted by tom
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2007
8156 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 8:31 am to
quote:

You did something to piss those elves off, probably cut down too many trees or something. Or traded them something wooden.

Definitely. I accidentally set crossbows on repeat, then I couldn't figure out why I never had any wood. And then the elves showed up to trade and I tried to trade them 50 crossbows.

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When you start building wealth, you probably want to do it in large scale steel production.

I think I picked my site poorly; I couldn't find any metal ores. How deep is "deep"?
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51903 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 11:58 am to
Deep can be anywhere from 20 layers down to just above the magma sea.

But iron tends to be shallow anyway.


A really good embark can be extremely hard to find.

You want at least deep metals and shallow metals (note the plurals), and Flux stone (an needed ingriedent to make steel), with no aquifer.


I prefer to have sand or clay in the mix as well.

If you are short something, don't forget the value of trading. It's not dwarfy in the slightest, but I have had a lot of success with an agricultural build in poor embarks, building windmills to grind flour as fast as possible to sell in barrels.
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
25192 posts
Posted on 9/15/14 at 9:42 am to
There is a Let's Play on Dwarf Fortress called Boatmurdered that pretty well sums up the game as it existed a few years ago.
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