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re: Any Stellaris reviews from the TD gamers?

Posted on 5/13/16 at 1:06 pm to
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 5/13/16 at 1:06 pm to
I guess I haven't researched them. I might just have keep building for awhile.
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 5/13/16 at 1:11 pm to
Yeah the expansion pack set up is definitely there. That's why I said it may be worth waiting for a Steam sale.

The game's framework may be the best Paradox has created, but they rely heavily on expansion packs. I'm not sure it is revolutionary enough to warrant $40. I did buy it though because I am sucker.
Posted by sbr2
Member since Apr 2011
15013 posts
Posted on 5/13/16 at 8:19 pm to
Hey man I don't like your attitude
Posted by BleedPurpleGold
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2005
18917 posts
Posted on 5/13/16 at 8:26 pm to
quote:

The game's framework may be the best Paradox has created


It really is worlds better than anything else we've seen from them.

quote:

I'm not sure it is revolutionary enough to warrant $40. I did buy it though because I am sucker.


It's not really revolutionary in any way other than the exploring aspect. I think they're just dipping their toes into something there that's never been done. Can't wait to see how the exploring aspect evolves in the inevitable 29038409384 expansions.
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 5/13/16 at 8:45 pm to
Ok?
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
18557 posts
Posted on 5/13/16 at 10:00 pm to
I definitely feel that way. I'm enjoying myself with it and it's good but it's not nearly as deep as CK2 or EU4. Diplomacy feels very restrictedncomparednto those 2 and I do feel like at times, there simply isn't enough to do and there isn't enough character there to keep it always interesting. It needed to be fleshed out a bit more.

I can't wait to Hearts of Iron 4 comes out next month!
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 5/14/16 at 4:18 am to
I think most of the content I've found is in playing bigger universes with fewer races. Just do more exploration and empire building.

The diplomacy is just not quite there yet. If you are being positive, you could say it is on par with EU's release. On the negative side you could say it was a smart move to stack those expansions.

Overall I'm not disappointed I spent money on it because there are quite a few things to do like playing with custom races, doing genetic manipulation etc. also interested to see what the modding community creates.
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
18557 posts
Posted on 5/14/16 at 9:50 am to
You see, I am not all that into the exploration.

And I'd say eu4s diplomacy is much better than this when it first launched. This is more on par with hearts of iron 3.
Posted by tom
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2007
8156 posts
Posted on 5/14/16 at 10:01 am to
quote:

I think they're just dipping their toes into something there that's never been done.

How is it different than Distant Worlds: Universe? I sorta skimmed some reviews, but it seems like the same sort of thing based on that.
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 5/14/16 at 4:05 pm to
Man, I kept playing today and had a pretty huge frustration spike with this game.

1) There seems to be no anti-blob technique with Federations. In my 8 starting empire game, 5 have just joined one federation.... I can't figure out a good way to pick them apart.

2) The lack of real zone control from "forts" is freaking ridiculous. Whenever you are at war there are fleets just flying everywhere. I guess you could coat every system in military stations, but holy frick is that an annoying prospect.

3) I was at war with another empire. Independently, that 5 man alliance was also at war with the same defender. I captured the three planets I wanted...... the big alliance then just peaced out and gave the planets I was controlling to one of their empires on the far side of map.... WTF?

Yeah...... that is pretty fricking stupid.
Posted by fouldeliverer
Lannisport
Member since Nov 2008
13538 posts
Posted on 5/15/16 at 1:58 pm to
Stop your bitching. It's a great game and will only get better through patches and DLC. I've put hundreds of hours in ck2 and eu4 and hoi. These games are always a bit shallow and frustrating interface and have some imbalances at the beginning.

Trust in Paradox.
This post was edited on 5/15/16 at 5:30 pm
Posted by sbr2
Member since Apr 2011
15013 posts
Posted on 5/15/16 at 5:03 pm to
Can anyone define when exactly "late game" is. I mean I was wiping the floor with my neighbors but fallen empires were still untouchable.
Posted by LSUSaintsHornets
Based Pelican
Member since Feb 2008
7309 posts
Posted on 5/15/16 at 6:43 pm to
First grand strategy game and I love it
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 5/15/16 at 9:49 pm to
I've played plenty of Paradox games, and I don't doubt they will fix every issue I mentioned. Unfortunately that will come with an extra $40+ cumulative price tag.

It is really frustrating that mechanics needed to make EU4 the great game it is are going to be delivered via drip feed DLC again.
Posted by GoldenGuy
Member since Oct 2015
10873 posts
Posted on 5/15/16 at 11:59 pm to
Is it better than Spore?

Downvote me to hell for praising an EA/Maxis game, but from the first few episodes of the playthrough, it looks like Spore does exploration a lot better.
Posted by sbr2
Member since Apr 2011
15013 posts
Posted on 5/16/16 at 6:47 am to
Rofl, you earned my down vote
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 5/16/16 at 7:18 am to
Let me toss on another downvote.
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 5/16/16 at 12:31 pm to
The first post-release Dev Diary is out. It confirmed two free updates that will fix a lot of the issues I mentioned above prior to the beginning of the expansions.

Nothing about changing the occupied planets thing. I still think that is a really weird design choice.
Posted by sbr2
Member since Apr 2011
15013 posts
Posted on 5/16/16 at 12:58 pm to
This pleases me...
Posted by asurob1
On the edge of the galaxy
Member since May 2009
26971 posts
Posted on 5/16/16 at 6:52 pm to
Meh.

Its a great opening game...the middle is dull...and the end game is average.

My biggest annoyance is the diplomacy (or lack there of) in the game. Very unlike paradox.

Just quit a game where I was destroying my opponent in a very bloody war...I was finally forced to grant him a white peace because I ran out of influence...what?!?
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