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re: Why can you not find Yuengling in south Louisiana?
Posted on 4/14/16 at 8:19 am to Tigertown in ATL
Posted on 4/14/16 at 8:19 am to Tigertown in ATL
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What bothers me is that Sam Adams is bigger (or about the same size), and hence they are a macro as well.
According to the Brewers Association, Yuengling is now a craft brewery. They fit with the revised definition... so they are now considered the largest craft brewery in the US.
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Posted on 4/14/16 at 8:19 am to EastNastySwag
Yuengling is the very definition of meh. Not bad, not great, just meh.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 8:19 am to BugAC
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Sam Adams is only considered micro because every year they petition the craft brewers alliance to change the definition of the word "micro" or "craft".
Are they a "macrocraft" ? They produce some beers that most would consider "craft".
Posted on 4/14/16 at 8:28 am to Tigertown in ATL
I would just use the term craft and not bother with size descriptors.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 9:00 am to Matisyeezy
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I would just use the term craft and not bother with size descriptors.
I'm no expert but intuitively it would seem that's probably a direction the industry will head. Based on ownership, ABInBev already produces craft beers. (e.g. Goose Island).
And it's not out of the question that one of the gigantic breweries could produce a good craft beer.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 9:01 am to Tigertown in ATL
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And it's not out of the question that one of the gigantic breweries could produce a good craft beer.
They have all the resources and ability in the world to produce good beer, but it's easier to just buy up craft brands like Goose Island than do it themselves.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 9:02 am to BLIZZAKE7
quote:It's closer to a Miller product. It's not as good as Bud-Light.
I don't get the love for Yuengling. Might as well drink Bud Light.
it's much better than BL for the same price or cheaper in some instances
Posted on 4/14/16 at 9:05 am to LSUBoo
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it's easier to just buy up craft brands like Goose Island than do it themselves.
True. It's a solid business model.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 9:23 am to Tigertown in ATL
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Are they a "macrocraft" ? They produce some beers that most would consider "craft".
Beer style has nothing to do with craft vs. macro. It's volume. Sam Adams has petitioned every year they grow to change the definition of the term. Thus why Sam Adams is still "Craft".
However, comparing Sam Adams to small breweries such as Southern Craft Brewery or Urban South as being the same sort of entity is absurd.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 9:30 am to BugAC
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eer style has nothing to do with craft vs. macro. It's volume
Gotcha.
So is "craft" an industry defined term and "macro" and "micro" are just consumer created terms?
Posted on 4/14/16 at 9:31 am to cuyahoga tiger
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I don't get the love for Yuengling. Might as well drink Bud Light.
It has been years since I had it, but I had it before I was even into craft beer and hated it because I recall it being skunky like Heineken is.
I actually prefer the domestics over it. High Life has its place in my life/fridge.. I'm not above a "piss water" beer.. I just simply dislike Yuengling specifically.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 9:37 am to LuckySo-n-So
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This isn't a shot at you specifically, so don't get your panties in a wad, but about three or four years ago, before the "beer guys" really started overwhelming this board, Yeungling was a very respected and well-liked beer--even among the "beer guys". Now it might as well be piss water.
Yeah, I mean, it's not horrible. It's better than natty or keystone. But I don't get the fuss over it not being widely available in S. La.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 9:41 am to BugAC
Considering that Sam Adams basically saved the American Microbrew industry, I'm inclined to raise a glass to them, and I'm about as much of a beer snob as you'll ever find.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 9:42 am to LouisianaLady
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I just simply dislike Yuengling specifically.
It's too malty for me.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 9:47 am to Joshjrn
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Considering that Sam Adams basically saved the American Microbrew industry, I'm inclined to raise a glass to them, and I'm about as much of a beer snob as you'll ever find.
I'm not saying they haven't helped the craft industry, but calling them craft is disingenuous.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 9:47 am to motorbreath
quote:I don't think you can find them anywhere in the galaxy. Didn't Anakin Skywalker kill them all in ROTS.
Why can you not find Yuengling in south Louisiana?
Posted on 4/14/16 at 9:56 am to BugAC
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I'm not saying they haven't helped the craft industry, but calling them craft is disingenuous.
How is it disingenuous? They are one of the original post-prohibition craft breweries and haven't sold out at all. They even loan a lot of money to startup craft breweries.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 9:59 am to LSUBoo
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They even loan a lot of money to startup craft breweries.
also give craft brewers access to their business information, ie. accounting, hr, logistics, etc.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 10:01 am to LuckySo-n-So
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This isn't a shot at you specifically, so don't get your panties in a wad, but about three or four years ago, before the "beer guys" really started overwhelming this board, Yeungling was a very respected and well-liked beer--even among the "beer guys". Now it might as well be piss water.
Things that make you go hmmmmmm.
It's called evolving tastes. 5 years ago there weren't nearly as many breweries and/or great beers out there. Now there are. You could substitute Abita into your sentence there and the same is true. At the time, yes it was good. But times change and the new guys are brewing better shite than some of the older guys. Hell, 5 years ago i could barely drink IPA's, now it's far and away my favorite style.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 10:08 am to LSUBoo
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They are one of the original post-prohibition craft breweries and haven't sold out at all. They even loan a lot of money to startup craft breweries.
I'm aware. And i'm not saying they are the devil. I'm saying considering them into the same categories as small start ups isn't apples to apples. They don't have the same issues as the smaller guys. I'm not trying to be a hipster and say "they should have stayed small, bigger means they suck". I'm saying in the brewery industry, they hardly share the same concerns as most of the 4000+ other breweries. And they aren't the only ones.
They are considered craft because they've asked to have the definition of barrels produced changed and the BA obliged. The definition used to be
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Annual production of 2 million barrels of beer or less (
Now it is 6 million barrels. This would eliminate other breweries as well as being craft. Maybe, if they want to constantly redefine the definition, they should just create another definition for the larger "craft" breweries. I'm not saying Sam Adams is equivalent to the BMC breweries. But hey also aren't equivalent to the majority of other breweries out there.
Thus the reasoning, why calling Sam Adams craft is a bit disingenuous.
This post was edited on 4/14/16 at 10:14 am
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