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When to use Cornstarch or Flour?

Posted on 12/30/16 at 6:50 pm
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 12/30/16 at 6:50 pm
I don't use cornstarch at all, but I remember my grandma used it often when she was still able to cook a lot.

I know they aren't complete substitutes, since I've only ever seen roux made with flour, but do any of y'all know when you should use one vs. the other and when can you use either?

Thanks!
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 12/30/16 at 6:56 pm to
Cornstarch to thicken after the water is added I guess.

Usually how I have seen it used
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
27098 posts
Posted on 12/30/16 at 6:58 pm to
Cornstarch has less thickening power over time. Flour stays thick once thick. Or so I heard from the cooking show on NPR one time.
This post was edited on 12/30/16 at 6:59 pm
Posted by Trout Bandit
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2012
13259 posts
Posted on 12/30/16 at 6:59 pm to
Due to its neutral flavor, cornstarch is used to thicken gravies and pie fillings. Roux is used to flavor and thicken gumbos and stews.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 12/30/16 at 7:04 pm to
Another tip while we're on the topic - you won't know the true thickening power of your cornstarch slurry until your liquid is at a boil.
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
18805 posts
Posted on 12/30/16 at 7:06 pm to
quote:

Due to its neutral flavor, cornstarch is used to thicken gravies and pie fillings. Roux is used to flavor and thicken gumbos and stews.





Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 12/30/16 at 7:07 pm to
I rarely use cornstarch---for a bouillie (stovetop egg custard), or for a pie filling. I don't like the slimy texture (think cheap buffet Chinese food) it lends in savory dishes.
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
18805 posts
Posted on 12/30/16 at 7:08 pm to
quote:

Cornstarch has less thickening power over time. Flour stays thick once thick. Or so I heard from the cooking show on NPR one time.





How would the chemistry of that work? doesn't seem logical to me, but hey, who am i to question NPR.
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
18805 posts
Posted on 12/30/16 at 7:10 pm to
quote:

I rarely use cornstarch---for a bouillie (stovetop egg custard), or for a pie filling. I don't like the slimy texture (think cheap buffet Chinese food) it lends in savory dishes.



Interesting... I got to thinking about this because I'm considering substituting flour for cornstarch in my banana pudding this weekend.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 12/30/16 at 7:11 pm to
Yeah, don't know. I'm not smart either.

Here's the link: LINK
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 12/30/16 at 7:11 pm to
Wondra in a gravy baw
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
18805 posts
Posted on 12/30/16 at 7:12 pm to
quote:

cornstarch slurry until your liquid is at a boil.


so cornstarch thickens more with heat and flour thickens more when cooled?
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
18805 posts
Posted on 12/30/16 at 7:13 pm to
quote:

Wondra in a gravy baw



never heard of it, might have to check this out.

Posted by Duane Dibbley
Red Dwarf
Member since Nov 2011
1569 posts
Posted on 12/30/16 at 7:46 pm to
quote:

How would the chemistry of that work? doesn't seem logical to me, but hey, who am i to question NPR.

If I remember correctly, roux thickens by the flour absorbing liquid, cornstarch thickens by forming chains. That's why you can reheat roux based dishes and they stay thick. Cornstarch on the other hand, when you reheat it the chains break down and it becomes soupy.
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
18805 posts
Posted on 12/30/16 at 9:02 pm to
gotcha...
Posted by Sidicous
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Aug 2015
17170 posts
Posted on 12/31/16 at 8:07 am to
Cornstarch will also make your items shiny. Think how several common oriental buffet items have that glossy sheen to the exterior versus Popeye's or KFC chicken.

Puddings and stews and gravies with corn starch will have a glossy shine to their exterior too. The shine is a dead giveaway to cheaper shortcut cooking at restaurants (or the in-laws /shrug).
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