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Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:06 am
Posted by bmela12
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:06 am
First time poster to the F&D Board. Recently engaged and starting to research venues and caterers. Knowing that weddings are a huge expense still doesn't help when you start pricing things out. Some details, then the question:

Details:
- We could invite up to 400 people; don't have to, but could
- Wedding will be early in the day: ~1:00-2:00pm on a Sat
- In my research so far, I've found several caterers that will provide food for about $30-$50 per person; booze for ~$20 per person.
- Venues in BR are $4,000-$6,000 for 3-4 hours average.

Questions:
- I know caterers work with custom menus and with an earlier reception should I still expect to pay $30-$50 for a "non-dinner" type reception (mostly food for picking and not the same as a ~7:00pm reception)?
- I've heard that, if pressed, a caterer will allow you to purchase your own booze and they just serve it for a "corking fee" or the sorts. Is this the norm, they just don't like doing it because they lose out on $20 per person? If I do $20 per person x ~200 people versus buying the booze myself and paying bartender(s), I save thousands.
- I'd like to be creative on the venue of the reception. I've checked out a lot of the "normal" places in BR. If the venue allows outside catering, then it's very expensive to rent. If the venue is cheap, they force you to use a specific caterer who is expensive. I feel like I'm in a vicious circle. Of course, size of the venue to accommodate possibly 400 people in January is tough. I'd like to not do an outside venue due to not trusting the weather to cooperate. Of course, we may reduce the number or invitees to make budget/venue work, but I'm in the early phase so haven't ruled out inviting the max. Any creative suggestions?

*Note: I've priced out the entire wedding and it ain't cheap - my estimate for everything is about $55k (all of the above, decorations, rehearsal dinner, church, licenses, etc...) for 400 people. However, I'd like to think we aren't pretentious brats and are putting together a classy but not even close to an over the top celebration. We'd like good food, good booze, good music, and a nice venue. These things don't have to be top dollar. We are dead set on having the wedding in BR, it just makes sense for our friends and family. We've also both lived here in BR for a very long time, so this is home.
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UPDATE:
I thought I was different....I thought I had enough experience to avoid the dramas of wedding planning. I am just like any dumb groom....

So the quick update is that we are spending way more money than anyone would imagine, despite finding many ways to host 350 people for well under $20k which included:
- Venue fee
- Band
- Food & Drink for 350ppl
- Decorations
- Transportation
- Etc...

BUT...bride and father did override my ideas and it is their money to spend.

For those looking, I'd be happy to share my thoughts on certain venues. But I will plug the Varsity. Brent was very accommodating and if you don't mind decorating, the Varsity is a great place to have a reception...or a party for that matter! Extremely reasonable prices and very flexible. AND Chimes only caters for events at the Varsity and they are extremely reasonable and flexible also.

All-in-all, I got overridden for the Varsity and we're going to another very nice venue. I'll keep that to myself so you crazies don't show up.
This post was edited on 2/24/17 at 8:12 am
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:10 am to
If you're inviting 400 people, I'd expect for only about 250-275 to actually make it. That should help your budget.

My reception was at a country club, so I'm not of much help on your questions. Good luck though. Planning the wedding was actually a really fun time for my wife and I.
Posted by jordan21210
Member since Apr 2009
13383 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:12 am to
A 400 person wedding is massive. Personally, I'd start by cutting the guest list.
Posted by bmela12
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
304 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:17 am to
quote:

If you're inviting 400 people, I'd expect for only about 250-275 to actually make it. That should help your budget.


Thanks! We definitely took a hard look at the 400 people and we really believe that the majority would come. Obviously not exactly 400, but I'm sold that I can't follow the traditional 50-60% "show up rate". We believe we're more in the 80-85% range.

Budget is definitely important. As you can imagine, I want everyone to be able to come and cutting the guest list is HARD. That's my main reason for wanting to be creative.
Posted by bmela12
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
304 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:19 am to
quote:

A 400 person wedding is massive. Personally, I'd start by cutting the guest list.


I won't disagree about it being massive. I don't want to sound naive by wanting 400 either. But I want to exhaust all options before resorting to cutting our guest list. A lot of personal reasons to keep the guest list intact.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
84116 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:28 am to
quote:

Thanks! We definitely took a hard look at the 400 people and we really believe that the majority would come. Obviously not exactly 400, but I'm sold that I can't follow the traditional 50-60% "show up rate". We believe we're more in the 80-85% range.



Trust me, not as many will come as you think. Things come up, etc.
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
26571 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:30 am to
quote:

- We could invite up to 400 people; don't have to, but could


Jesus man, 400? My wedding is in April and we have about 200 invited and if I could have I would have continued cutting until I hit 150 or so.

quote:

We believe we're more in the 80-85% range.


On average only 60% or so will actually show up. I suppose it's smart to financially plan for higher than that, but out of 400 people I would be surprised if 320 (80%) actually show up.



How long of an engagement do you have? My advice is to book everything you can ASAP before all the good ones are taken.

As for the booze, a lot of times the bar is determined by the venue. Some venues require that you use their people and alcohol, while others are more lax. So be sure to ask about that when picking your venue.
This post was edited on 12/9/16 at 10:32 am
Posted by jordan21210
Member since Apr 2009
13383 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:32 am to
Well my reasoning is more personal anyway. My fiancé and I are planning our wedding right now and looking at inviting ~200 tops. We want a smaller wedding. I will say, with our small guest list we are close to maxing our budget, which is slightly less than yours and we aren't really doing anything top dollar. If you can get a 400 guest wedding for $55k total, I think you've done as well as you could without making any significant sacrifices.
This post was edited on 12/9/16 at 10:34 am
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45809 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:35 am to
You can have the wedding on a Saturday in October and knock the attendance down real low...
Posted by bmela12
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
304 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:36 am to
@LNCHBOX, I hope you're right! Ha!

@AbitaFan08, oh yeah, I'm extremely popular. You should see how many Facebook friends I have! Ha! Joking of course.

We got engaged a few months ago and are looking at January 2018 as a wedding date. I agree, we have already booked the church and the next step is venue. You're 100% right about the venue controlling booze. They control pretty much everything. That is why I'm looking for creative suggestions.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38785 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:36 am to
quote:

We could invite up to 400 people


you have truly lost your mind
congrats on the engagement though
Posted by bmela12
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
304 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:37 am to
@wickowick, make it a Saturday in November and you can count me out too! Between La hunting and football, no one should plan any event from October to the 2nd weekend in January.
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
26571 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:38 am to
quote:

That is why I'm looking for creative suggestions.


I know someone who had their reception at the LA State Museum. Cool venue, though in January you would likely not use the outdoor space, and for a party of your size it may not be big enough.

Anyway, I know that they were able to purchase alcohol separately and saved a good bit of money that way, so it may be worth looking into.
Posted by bmela12
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
304 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:40 am to
@jordan21210, that's my fear. My budget isn't exactly $55k, that is just what I've estimated a wedding for 400 people would cost with our "wants". I am 100% trying to exhaust all of my possibilities for a 400 person wedding for less than that before cutting my guest list.

Again....I know 400 is insane. But it will be a hell of a party.
Posted by bmela12
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
304 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:41 am to
quote:

I know someone who had their reception at the LA State Museum.


Great, thanks for the suggestion. I don't believe I looked there yet.
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
26571 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:42 am to
A little tip since you're new... you don't have to start your posts with "@whatever". Whenever you click "reply" it will say at the top of your post who you are responding to
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45809 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:42 am to
quote:

I agree, we have already booked the church and the next step is venue. You're 100% right about the venue controlling booze


The old state capital might let you control the booze, but I think red wine is not allowed...
Posted by bmela12
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
304 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:43 am to
You're right about about them not allowing red wine. I don't blame them...they're probably still paying for the carpet!
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
26571 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:45 am to
quote:

You're right about about them not allowing red wine. I don't blame them...they're probably still paying for the carpet!


My venue doesn't allow red wine either, and frankly I'm glad. That's just one more expense that can be cut without us looking like cheapskates.

Also check out the Old Governor's Mansion. Not sure about their alcohol policy but it is a good reception venue.
Posted by GaryMyMan
Shreveport
Member since May 2007
13498 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:46 am to
quote:

If you're inviting 400 people, I'd expect for only about 250-275 to actually make it.

We invited 200 and had about 220 show up. And we got married 300 miles from home. Folks were really itching to get out of Shreveport.

La. state museum is a great suggestion if the weather permits. What about the LSU Faculty Club? I've seen receptions there done nicely but have never actually been to one.
This post was edited on 12/9/16 at 10:48 am
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