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vision grill/kamado cooking help and techniques

Posted on 11/17/16 at 10:06 am
Posted by cgrand
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Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 11/17/16 at 10:06 am
is there a catch-all thread on cooking basics with one of these? or if there isn't, would some of the experts be willing to make this thread the one?

i got a vision pro S for my birthday last week.
i tried it for the first time this past weekend with a beer-can chicken. mistakes were made...

1) i guess i used way too much charcoal. i filled the bowl up to the air holes like the manual said, then put the starter element in and shut the lid with the top and bottom vents open all the way. 10 minutes later the thermometer was pinned past 700 degrees and the felt gaskets were scorched and smoking

2) so...i scrambled to try and get the temp down but its clear to me now that just opening lid added more O2. so i closed top and bottom but i never could get it below 450. i opened the lid after several minutes closed up and the rush of air coming in was like a bomb going off...seared all the hair off my forearms

so intuitively now i think i understand how these things work, at least for a long cook. the bird came out really tasty after all my flailing around

i used foil as a drip catcher/heat break on the lower grate. it worked OK

so, TL:DR
anyone care to post up tips/techniques/best practices etc for lighting, cooking, temp control, etc?
Posted by Sherman Klump
Wellman College
Member since Jul 2011
4457 posts
Posted on 11/17/16 at 10:08 am to
Always catch your temperature on the way up....it's too hard to bring a ceramic grill down to a desired temperature.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38751 posts
Posted on 11/17/16 at 10:13 am to
how?
by adding fuel after its lit?
Posted by t00f
Not where you think I am
Member since Jul 2016
89793 posts
Posted on 11/17/16 at 10:28 am to
No, you control temperature by the top and bottom vents. If you get the temperature too high you have to back off and close the vents almost all the way to get the temperature back down and it takes awhile.

Here is a good website that has more than enough info you would ever want.

LINK
This post was edited on 11/17/16 at 10:31 am
Posted by HatefulTiger
SELA
Member since Aug 2014
159 posts
Posted on 11/17/16 at 11:46 am to
I have a Vision, but it is the Classic B, so no ash drawer. I always fill my charcoal up above the holes, especially for long smokes. I open the top daisy wheel all the way, and the bottom vent all the way when I light it. I let it burn for roughly 10 minutes and then shut the lid and leave my vents open until I get to the temp I want. I won't start cooking until I've adjusted my vents and am holding my desired temperature.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38751 posts
Posted on 11/17/16 at 12:00 pm to
so screwed up by closing the lid while it was lighting?
Posted by HatefulTiger
SELA
Member since Aug 2014
159 posts
Posted on 11/17/16 at 12:06 pm to
Yeah, you need to give the coals time to get lit and burning. It may not need a full 10 minutes, but I usually give it that long before closing the lid. I've had mine for a little over a year and that seems to be the best process for me personally.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
72010 posts
Posted on 11/17/16 at 12:34 pm to
Use half the charcoal you think you need, especially for something like a chicken. You can always add more
Posted by FishinTygah84
LA
Member since Dec 2013
1976 posts
Posted on 11/17/16 at 1:21 pm to
Hateful Tiger and i both have the same Vision Classic B. I have had mine almost 2 years. I made a lot of the same mistakes you made. A kamado grill is like taming a wild stallion. It takes a lot of trial and error to perfect it, but once you do it's the best there is.

I'd recommend getting some accessories if you dont have them already. Big Green Egg accessories all fit the vision. So i would get a BGE platesetter (heat deflector), a pizza stone, a rib rack, and a cast iron grate. Also, that gasket is garbage. I replaced mine immediately with the high heat nomex gasket. See link below. 2 years later and it's still rollin strong.

LINK
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38751 posts
Posted on 11/17/16 at 1:38 pm to
Posted by LSUfootball222
Member since Oct 2009
1149 posts
Posted on 11/17/16 at 2:53 pm to
Good info
Posted by 4WHLN
Drinking at the Cottage Inn
Member since Mar 2013
7581 posts
Posted on 11/17/16 at 7:18 pm to
Egghead forums has some good info also. And Tons of recipes for kamado cooking. I also watched a couple YouTube videos on how different people would lite their pits and bring them up to temp. After a couple tries, you'll get the hang of it.
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