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The term "86" at restaurants

Posted on 10/22/10 at 9:56 am
Posted by wahootiger
Member since Sep 2010
304 posts
Posted on 10/22/10 at 9:56 am
Where does the term come from in reference to being out of certain foods at restaurants? I never got a straight answer from the cooks I used to work with, so I thought I'd try another avenue for information.
Posted by HeadyMurphey
Los Santos
Member since Jan 2008
17183 posts
Posted on 10/22/10 at 10:02 am to
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86 may be the most common term uttered in bars and restaurants. It means the supply of an item is exhausted, as in "Tell the customer to order another appetizer. The soup du jour is 86'd. We're out." It is used to cut customers off as well, as in "Don't serve Drunk Guy over there anymore, he's 86'd." It can go as far as meaning to eject or debar from the premises, as in "Johnny's 86'd. Every time he comes in here he starts a fight, so he is no longer welcome." The term is used often, yet not everyone knows where it came from. The following are some of the many theories of where the term originated.

My favorite theory is that it originated at Chumley's, a famous 1900's New York speakeasy located at 86 Bedford St.. During Prohibition, the entrance through an interior adjoining courtyard was used for it was both discreet and private. As per New York tradition, cops were on Chumley's payroll, and when they were about to raid the joint, they would call ahead. The bartender would then give the command "86 everybody," which meant that everyone should hightail it out the Bedford St. entrance for the cops were coming in through the courtyard.

Some people say the address of the bar is pure coincidence, and the term originated in rhyming slang used by workers so that the average customer didn't know what they were taking about. 86 rhymes with nix.

Another theory is that it originated with the number codes developed by soda fountain clerks. 86 was the password indicating they were out of an item. These codes were extensive, such as a 98 from one soda popper to another meant, "the assistant manager is on the prowl so watch yourself."

Some say 86 originated at Delmonico's Restaurant in New York City. Number 86 on their menu was steak and the most popular item. It often sold out. From there 86 became shorthand for being out of an item



This post was edited on 10/22/10 at 10:03 am
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
29150 posts
Posted on 10/22/10 at 10:43 am to
That is one very unsatisfying explanation.

thanks for trying though
Posted by bobbyleewilliams
Tigertown
Member since Feb 2010
8266 posts
Posted on 10/22/10 at 2:46 pm to
Sounds correct to me...
Posted by UnclassyStudent
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
2835 posts
Posted on 10/22/10 at 2:50 pm to
Its one of those things that you're never going to find an offical answer for. I've read at least 20 different ones. Just move on.
Posted by death valley driver
CHOPPA CITY
Member since Jul 2004
11592 posts
Posted on 10/22/10 at 3:41 pm to
alot different than 86 on the OT
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2010
6858 posts
Posted on 10/23/10 at 1:43 am to
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