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Posted on 3/29/17 at 8:07 pm to
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 3/29/17 at 8:07 pm to
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Broussard >> BR


Truth.

Food and beer. And baws. And native women.
This post was edited on 3/29/17 at 8:08 pm
Posted by thegreatboudini
Member since Oct 2008
6456 posts
Posted on 3/29/17 at 8:12 pm to
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We're talking Parish, not GOAT Raft.


Posted by Prosecuted Collins
The Farm
Member since Sep 2003
6612 posts
Posted on 3/29/17 at 10:05 pm to
Dudes can make beer but desperately need someone to manage the business.

Trillium ain't turning around shitty beers for sorority girls and they are tripling revenue almost every year.

Envie has never been as good as the first "baby ghost" batches, ghost has fallen off and the successful beers opus and ddh are limited.

I find it hard too believe the Parish market is clamoring for Canebrake or Strwarberry CB. They need to focus on juice with production.
This post was edited on 3/29/17 at 10:10 pm
Posted by Ex-Popcorn
Member since Nov 2005
2129 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 8:46 am to
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I find it hard too believe the Parish market is clamoring for Canebrake or Strwarberry CB.


I don't believe they are idiots. I agree that they should be focusing exclusively on the high end juice. But, there's got to be a business reason they push out so much damned canebrake (including strawberry).
Posted by jsk020
Nola
Member since Jan 2013
1699 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 8:55 am to
majority of beer drinkers in this state don't drink IPAs. Canebrake is mild so it appeals to alot of people. We know most of us here are Pale Ale drinkers so we love Envie, Bloom, Ghost, etc. But the majority of beer drinkers see Canebrake or S-Canebrake and are like, hmm its not Michelob but i will try it.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
36656 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 8:57 am to
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I find it hard too believe the Parish market is clamoring for Canebrake or Strwarberry CB. They need to focus on juice with production.


I am positive if you looked at their p&l that canebreak is buttering their biscuit.

Same reason that Saint Arnold's sells lawnmower. People love a local beer that is easy to drink and easy to find. I'd imagine it is considerably cheaper to produce.



This post was edited on 3/30/17 at 12:48 pm
Posted by Ex-Popcorn
Member since Nov 2005
2129 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:08 am to
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I am positive if you looked at their p&l that canebreak is buttering their biscuit.


Certainly, true. But, if that's the case, then these guys are focused on profit (which they should be). But, they are making a HUGE mistake on sitting on current production limits. They could easily support additional facilities for added production capacity for added profit.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52798 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:28 am to
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Certainly, true. But, if that's the case, then these guys are focused on profit (which they should be). But, they are making a HUGE mistake on sitting on current production limits. They could easily support additional facilities for added production capacity for added profit.


Maybe that's what this hold on juice has been for. Build up revenue off of canebrake and Strawberry for a couple months, then go back to their less profitable beers (the juice) to give some starter income to build an expansion...

Or maybe they just wanted to actually have some take home money for a couple months. First few years of starting a business, most of your profits go directly back into the business.
Posted by gmrkr5
NC
Member since Jul 2009
14892 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:29 am to
well this thread went exactly as i expected....
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
21272 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 11:55 am to
quote:

majority of beer drinkers in this state don't drink IPAs. Canebrake is mild so it appeals to alot of people. We know most of us here are Pale Ale drinkers so we love Envie, Bloom, Ghost, etc. But the majority of beer drinkers see Canebrake or S-Canebrake and are like


This. The market/economic ignorance in some of these beer threads astounds me.

Comparing Parish to Trillum? You have completely different demographics with Boston and traveling beer nerds vs Louisiana.

Parish doesn't have a line of people waiting outside to beat down their doors every day, and no matter what beer they brew, they won't except for day of release dates. Broussard is not a vacation destination, nor does it have as large a population of beer geeks.

Admittedly the worship of Andrew on this board can get entertaining, but he is doing a great job operating his business from both angles. Use Canebrake as the cash cow to make good pay days and to have money to reinvest in the kinds of beers that most FBDers love to drink and are willing to seek out.
Posted by mswiggins
Member since Jun 2014
361 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 12:02 pm to
From what I have read about smaller breweries, the biggest hold up is ingredients.

The hop market is booming and breweries have to contracts to get those hops.

Parish may be waiting on more hops.
Posted by Matisyeezy
End of the bar, Drunk
Member since Feb 2012
16624 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 12:21 pm to
quote:

Parish doesn't have a line of people waiting outside to beat down their doors every day, and no matter what beer they brew, they won't except for day of release dates. Broussard is not a vacation destination, nor does it have as large a population of beer geeks.



This argument doesn't hold water. You think the people of Greensboro, VT are keeping Hill Farmstead afloat? You think the people of Stowe are why The Alchemist exists? Of course not. And you think those towns are vacation destinations? Unless you're a beer nerd (ETA: or I guess a skier?), probably not.

If Parish brewed Hill Farmstead-caliber beer, people from all over would line up. Period.
This post was edited on 3/30/17 at 12:38 pm
Posted by buffbraz
Member since Nov 2005
5676 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 12:32 pm to
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This argument doesn't hold water. You think the people of Greensboro, VT are keeping Hill Farmstead afloat? You think the people of Stowe are why The Alchemist exists? Of course not. And you think those towns are vacation destinations? Unless you're a beer nerd, probably not.

If Parish brewed Hill Farmstead-caliber beer, people from all over would line up. Period.


Definitely. I think if they cranked out their juice bombs more often, us beer nerds would buy them up.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
21272 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 12:37 pm to
The beer drinking demographics of the NE is way different, at this point, than that of the deep South. Relative distance to large swaths of population centers is way different too.

The breweries you reference can draw day trips and 2 day trips from Boston, Philly, NYC, DC.

Broussard/Lafayette doesn't have that. There's Houston 3 hours away. Then what? NOLA? Dallas and Birmingham further out. Austin and San Antonio.

Look, I know zilch about brewing beer. I do know demos and business, and what I am willing to bet is that Andrew is playing the demographics of his region well. Canebrake is extremely cheap to make, compared to stuff like DDH Envie, and if some of it sits on the shelves, no big deal. Someone will buy it and the 5 months of sitting doesn't change the taste.
This post was edited on 3/30/17 at 2:15 pm
Posted by Matisyeezy
End of the bar, Drunk
Member since Feb 2012
16624 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 12:58 pm to
quote:

The beer drinking demographics of the NE is way different, at this point, than that of the deep South. Relative distance to large swaths of population centers is way different too.



Interesting talking point -- the guys at both Other Half and Monkish have stated that if it weren't for traders/mules they wouldn't be able to do what they do -- and by do what they do, I mean sell out every release.

And regionally speaking, those guys aren't the best at what they do in their region. Imagine if Parish was making hops and sours like Monkish, or had a barrel program like Hill Farmstead, or had 20+ different hoppy beers like Other Half/Trillium that are all really solid. It would quickly become THE preeminent brewery in the region, making it a destination in and of itself. Yes, there is more sprawl to the southeastern region, but there's also nobody doing what northeastern guys do. It's an interesting thought experiment, at least. I think they could have that level of success.

Of course that's all contingent upon Parish actually brewing at that level
Posted by thegreatboudini
Member since Oct 2008
6456 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 1:10 pm to
7 downvotes for GOAT Raft?

You people are in denial if you can't admit that they are, by a long shot, the best brewery in the state top to bottom.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
30578 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 1:15 pm to
Canebrake is definitely their volume beer. Most people don't drink pale ale in LA (or at least BR). I worked in a couple of the nicest restaurants in BR as a server, and I could probably count on both hands the number of times someone ordered a pale ale. And these were wealthy people with good taste. But in my experience, people love trying new food, but are extremely hesitant to try new alcohol (when they have to pay for it), so they rarely go outside of a Canebrake if they get beer. We had shipments of Ghost at one of the restaurants, and it would take weeks to sell out, even though it would last a day in Calandros. So you have to factor in that restaurants are a significant buyer of Canebrake, but most can't sell IPAs effectively
Posted by jsk020
Nola
Member since Jan 2013
1699 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 1:19 pm to
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7 downvotes for GOAT Raft


Look i enjoy commotion as much as anyone, and honestly it's probably my go to PA. But i'm not retarded. Their other PA (Southern Drawl) is pure garbage whereas PArish has like 4 reputable Pale Ales.
This post was edited on 3/30/17 at 1:22 pm
Posted by thegreatboudini
Member since Oct 2008
6456 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 1:26 pm to
Please get up to speed before you come at me with that garbage. I will bitch slap your punk arse back to chackbay where you belong.

1. Southern Drawl isn't even a pale ale.

ETA: editing all your bull shite I see.

I give Parish the nod on their IPA game, granted they are all spitting images of the same beer (outside of bloom), but let me know when they brew something else worth a shite.

GOAT Raft killing the game with pappy barrel BA old mad joy (even adding cinnamon and coffee to some too). Awkward uncle is great, and drunk uncle is better. I'll take Grace and Grit 16oz tall boys over any bottle parish brings to the table (I understand that's a personal choice), especially that bull shite ghost they've been putting out (most importantly nearly all of last years).

GOAT Raft sours >>>> Parish sours

Like I said, I'm talking top to bottom. Yes, parish is ontop the IPA game, but that's all they're on top of. You want to call out southern drawl, which I admit is subpar, but you won't call out its direct parish competition canebrake which leaves just as much to be desired. Reasonably corrupt and south coast are both sub par washes.
This post was edited on 3/30/17 at 1:34 pm
Posted by monkeybutt
Member since Oct 2015
4583 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 1:29 pm to
quote:

Please get up to speed before you come at me with that garbage. I will bitch slap your punk arse back to chackbay where you belong.

1. Southern Drawl isn't even a pale ale.


Damn son settle down.

2. Southern Drawl still isn't very good, regardless what type it is.
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