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NE vs NW IPAs
Posted on 5/10/17 at 1:31 pm
Posted on 5/10/17 at 1:31 pm
Technically, both styles are IPAs. They do not list them as separate styles at beer festivals that I've seen.
Are the two styles different enough to justify separating them?
Are the two styles different enough to justify separating them?
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Posted on 5/10/17 at 1:32 pm to Jax-Tiger
NE IPA & IPA. I dont think NW IPA needs to be defined.
Posted on 5/10/17 at 1:35 pm to Jax-Tiger
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Technically, both styles are IPAs. They do not list them as separate styles at beer festivals that I've seen.
Are the two styles different enough to justify separating them?
West Coast IPAs are typically more malty and piney with subtle fruit flavors with a clear golden color(hard to explain) and bitter
NE IPAs focus on being hazy with a fruity hop forward taste while minimizing the amount of bitterness(different hop techniques)
Posted on 5/10/17 at 1:37 pm to sandraccoon
Love em both, just depends on what I fell like drinking on any given day (Monday through Sunday only).
Posted on 5/10/17 at 1:44 pm to Demshoes
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(Monday through Sunday only).
That is every day! Haha!
Posted on 5/10/17 at 1:45 pm to tigersfirst
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(Monday through Sunday only).
I see what you did there
Posted on 5/10/17 at 1:45 pm to Jax-Tiger
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Technically, both styles are IPAs. They do not list them as separate styles at beer festivals that I've seen.
Are the two styles different enough to justify separating them?
Absolutely. Trying to judge a NEIPA by the IPA style guidelines simply doesn't work. You can't judge a beer by it's clarity, bitterness, and crispness, when the entire purpose of a NEIPA is to subdue the bitterness, enhance hop flavor, and increase the mouthfeel which in turns adds some turbidity to the beer.
This post was edited on 5/10/17 at 1:48 pm
Posted on 5/10/17 at 3:25 pm to Jax-Tiger
west coast ipas are different animal than neipa,
I prefer neipa myself
I prefer neipa myself
This post was edited on 5/10/17 at 3:27 pm
Posted on 5/10/17 at 3:38 pm to Jax-Tiger
They are both under the IPA umbrella, but they should not be judged to the same standards.
BJCP says to enter NEIPAs into the Specialty IPA category.
BJCP says to enter NEIPAs into the Specialty IPA category.
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Q: In what category should I enter my super hazy New England IPA?
A: Specialty IPA. Unlike the fruit/spice examples above, the currently popular (and divisive) NE IPA is a unique take on the IPA style that involves much more than adding a single specialty ingredient. The NE IPA is balanced to fruity or tropical aroma and flavor hops with subdued bittering, a cloudy appearance, and a fuller, creamier mouthfeel. A short description should be provided until a standard BJCP style description is prepared.
Posted on 5/10/17 at 4:00 pm to BottomlandBrew
Breakside, a local brewery up here just opened a "Hop Lab" with a focus on brewing experimental hoppy beers. They have identified 6 styles of IPAs that they are going to be rotating in/out. They will always have their regular IPAs oon tap, which would be NW style. It appears that their "Something Wicked" will also be on tap all the time, and it is a NEIPA.
Interesting list.
Note: I don't know what that Southern Hemisphere IPA is, and they don't give an example. Any guesses on that one?
1 the golden, resinous, strong IPAs of Southern California, typified by friends at Pizza Port, Bagby, Beachwood, Noble Ale Works, and Ballast Point
2 the soft , hazy and estery IPAs of New England in the vein of Hill Farmstead, Nightshift, and Trillium
3 the piney and citric IPAs of the Pacific Northwest and Northern California made timeless by Firestone Walker, Russian River, and Barley Brown’s
4 the over-the-top, weighty IPAs of the Midwest inspired by Fat Heads, Columbus Brewing, Brew Kettle, Three Floyds and Surly
5 the rich and saturating IPAs of the Mountain West a vein that runs from Melvin in Jackson, WY, south through Denver to Albuquerque, home of Bosque, La Cumbre, and Canteen
6 the fruity and oily IPAs from the Southern Hemisphere
ETA: I numbered them. I didn't intend for people to rate their preference in styles, but LST started it, so go right on ahead, if you want to.
Interesting list.
Note: I don't know what that Southern Hemisphere IPA is, and they don't give an example. Any guesses on that one?
1 the golden, resinous, strong IPAs of Southern California, typified by friends at Pizza Port, Bagby, Beachwood, Noble Ale Works, and Ballast Point
2 the soft , hazy and estery IPAs of New England in the vein of Hill Farmstead, Nightshift, and Trillium
3 the piney and citric IPAs of the Pacific Northwest and Northern California made timeless by Firestone Walker, Russian River, and Barley Brown’s
4 the over-the-top, weighty IPAs of the Midwest inspired by Fat Heads, Columbus Brewing, Brew Kettle, Three Floyds and Surly
5 the rich and saturating IPAs of the Mountain West a vein that runs from Melvin in Jackson, WY, south through Denver to Albuquerque, home of Bosque, La Cumbre, and Canteen
6 the fruity and oily IPAs from the Southern Hemisphere
ETA: I numbered them. I didn't intend for people to rate their preference in styles, but LST started it, so go right on ahead, if you want to.
This post was edited on 5/10/17 at 4:15 pm
Posted on 5/10/17 at 4:06 pm to Jax-Tiger
3,2,1,5,6,4
This post was edited on 5/10/17 at 4:07 pm
Posted on 5/10/17 at 4:15 pm to Jax-Tiger
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Note: I don't know what that Southern Hemisphere IPA is, and they don't give an example. Any guesses on that one?
IPA with austrailian/new zealand hops. Think Galaxy.
Posted on 5/10/17 at 4:16 pm to LoneStarTiger
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3,2,1,5,6,4
Okay, you rated 6 ahead of 4. Do you have an example of a southern hemisphere beer, or do you just dislike Fatheads beer that much?
Posted on 5/10/17 at 4:21 pm to BugAC
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IPA with austrailian/new zealand hops. Think Galaxy.
Gotcha. Galaxy is very popular in the NEIPAs, though.
I was thinking southern hemisphere, as in South America. I notice they didn't include English style IPAs, or any of the other European style IPAs, so I figured they were only doing IPAs from the Americas.
Posted on 5/10/17 at 4:24 pm to Jax-Tiger
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Okay, you rated 6 ahead of 4. Do you have an example of a southern hemisphere beer, or do you just dislike Fatheads beer that much?
I just assume whatever it may be will be better than "over the top, weighty" IPAs
Posted on 5/10/17 at 4:26 pm to Jax-Tiger
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I was thinking southern hemisphere, as in South America.
I was thinking IPAs with southern hemisphere hops too, that's not what they are saying
This post was edited on 5/10/17 at 4:27 pm
Posted on 5/10/17 at 4:26 pm to Jax-Tiger
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Gotcha. Galaxy is very popular in the NEIPAs, though.
Galaxy, Nelson Sauvin, Motueka, Rakau, Waimea, Ella, Vic Secret, Topaz, Green Bullett, Pacific Jade
They have a bunch. I wouldn't classify origin of a hop as a hop style.
Posted on 5/10/17 at 5:56 pm to Jax-Tiger
5, 2 & 3 tied (don't want to choose), 1, 4, and I have no idea what 6 means.
Posted on 5/10/17 at 7:13 pm to BugAC
I would. There is a strong terrior to those NZ hops. They have a distinct characteristic when used on their own.
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