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Nassim Taleb on food preferences
Posted on 1/18/16 at 10:20 am
Posted on 1/18/16 at 10:20 am
I tend to agree with some of this to an extent
I'm definitely with him on the last note. Filet mignon is overrated. I'd prefer a ribeye or even a burger over it. Hell I'll take chicken fried steak.
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When people get rich, they lose control of their preferences, substituting constructed preferences to their own, triggering their own misery. And these are the preferences of those who want to sell them something (a skin-in-the-game problem as their choices are dictated by others who have something to gain, and no side effects, from the sale).
I've mentioned here the following anecdote. I once had dinner in a Michelin-starred restaurant with a fellow who insisted on eating there instead of my selection of a casual Greek place. People in the restaurant were of the very constipated style, that kind of atmosphere. Dinner consisted in a succession of complicated small things. It felt like work. I left the place starving. Now if I had a choice I would have had some time-tested recipe (say a pizza with fresh ingredients, or a juicy hamburger) in a lively place --for a tenth of the price. But because the fellow could afford the expensive restaurant, we ended up the victims of some complicated experiments by a chef judged by some Michelin bureaucrat (one that would fail the Lindy effect, instead of eating some minute local variation around a progress through Sicilian grandmothers).
(Footnote: Hamburgers are tastier than filet mignon, because of the higher fat content, but people have been convinced that the latter is better because it is more expensive to produce).
I'm definitely with him on the last note. Filet mignon is overrated. I'd prefer a ribeye or even a burger over it. Hell I'll take chicken fried steak.
This post was edited on 1/18/16 at 10:21 am
Posted on 1/18/16 at 12:17 pm to Powerman
Shameless bump, thought this was an interesting topic
Posted on 1/18/16 at 12:19 pm to Powerman
Is this part of a larger piece? If so, I'd like to read it before making value judgments.
Posted on 1/18/16 at 12:20 pm to Powerman
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Filet mignon is overrated. I'd prefer a ribeye
For home cooking I agree 100%. At a restaurant it can be touch and go. Places that don't do ribeyes as often because of the reasons Taleb gives sometimes screw up the ribeye.
Posted on 1/18/16 at 12:26 pm to Joshjrn
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Is this part of a larger piece? If so, I'd like to read it before making value judgments.
I follow him on facebook. Usually a posting like this is a draft or concept of something he is going to put into a book but he didn't mention that in this case. There was another snippet at the end that I'll add below.
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The same with real estate. Most people, I am convinced, are happier in close quarters, in a real barrio-style neighborhood, where they can feel human warmth, but when they have big bucks they end up pressured to move into a humongous impersonal and silent mansions, far away from the neighbors. Not counting the fact that their house will be professionally managed like a corporation.
I am saying this because, with the passage time, I am more and more convinced that very few people understand their own choices, and end up being manipulated by those who want to sell them something. Looking at Saudi Arabia which should progressively revert to the pre-oil level of poverty, I wonder if taking away some things from them will make them better off.
Posted on 1/18/16 at 12:26 pm to Powerman
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Shameless bump, thought this was an interesting topic
Sees a bit overly simplistic (the filet vs. hamburger comparison) and hyperbolic.
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substituting constructed preferences to their own, triggering their own misery.
Triggering their own misery? Come on.
Posted on 1/18/16 at 12:29 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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Sees a bit overly simplistic (the filet vs. hamburger comparison) and hyperbolic.
It's just one concrete example
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Triggering their own misery? Come on.
Misery might be a bit hyperbolic but it does make you wonder
Posted on 1/18/16 at 12:30 pm to Y.A. Tittle
Of course, the recent NY Times review of Per Se is sort of a better (and possibly more apt) example of how the type of dining trend he's lamenting is pretty much in the process of jumping the shark, absent any real societal hand-wringing.
Posted on 1/18/16 at 12:33 pm to Powerman
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It's just one concrete example
Yeah, I understand that. I just didn't think it was a particularly good one at all.
Posted on 1/18/16 at 12:40 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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I just didn't think it was a particularly good one at all.
I do
Filets are terribly overrated
Posted on 1/18/16 at 12:48 pm to Powerman
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Filets are terribly overrated
Agreed (generally speaking). That's not really my point, though.
Posted on 1/18/16 at 12:51 pm to Powerman
Agree with everything he wrote.
I'd rather a pig roast and crawfish than Commanders.
I don't like to eat and be uncomfortable.
I'd rather a pig roast and crawfish than Commanders.
I don't like to eat and be uncomfortable.
Posted on 1/18/16 at 1:02 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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Agreed (generally speaking). That's not really my point, though.
Well, get better at articulating your point.
Posted on 1/18/16 at 1:05 pm to BRgetthenet
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I'd rather a pig roast and crawfish than Commanders.
I'd argue that Commander's is one of the fine dining restaurants that gets it though and doesn't go for the small complicated dishes that don't fill you up.
Pretty good serving sizes there.
Posted on 1/18/16 at 1:14 pm to Powerman
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(Footnote: Hamburgers are tastier than filet mignon, because of the higher fat content, but people have been convinced that the latter is better because it is more expensive to produce).
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I am saying this because, with the passage time, I am more and more convinced that very few people understand their own choices, and end up being manipulated by those who want to sell them something.
Love how this guy is pompously stating well-known and widely believed ideas as if he just came up with them. Should be a writer for the tv show Girls.
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Looking at Saudi Arabia which should progressively revert to the pre-oil level of poverty, I wonder if taking away some things from them will make them better off.
And wtf is he getting at here? Seems as if he out-thunk himself on this complete failure to make a point.
Posted on 1/18/16 at 1:16 pm to Powerman
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Well, get better at articulating your point.
I guess my point is, it's just sort of more a cliche (filet > hamburger) rather than something anyone really argues -- certainly in regards to current gourmet type circles.
I think their are people who genuinely enjoy a certain type of high end dining experience. From my interactions with those folks (even submitting that I may do so on occasion myself), most such people still seem to be able to appreciate other, perhaps more pedestrian dining (hell, I like pretty much everything, if it's good, and I'm just as likely to decide something high end is not good, as something low end -- I don't think I'm atypical).
However, I do agree there are certain aspects of dining out (as with any number of other things in society) that some people will glum onto because they think it is the proper thing to do, to be in a certain social standing. I think with dining, though, possibly more than even other things, most people eventually tend to fall in line with what they genuinely just like and, at some point, get over the idea that they need to do certain things just to impress or 'keep up.'
Posted on 1/18/16 at 1:25 pm to Powerman
I think this is the first time R2R has heard of Taleb. God bless him.
Posted on 1/18/16 at 1:30 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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I think their are people who genuinely enjoy a certain type of high end dining experience
Absolutely
Posted on 1/18/16 at 1:33 pm to Rohan2Reed
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Should be a writer for the tv show Girls.
I see you don't know much about the guy
Posted on 1/18/16 at 1:42 pm to Powerman
had a few finance professors that worshipped Taleb
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