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Homemade Burgers
Posted on 2/4/15 at 1:06 pm
Posted on 2/4/15 at 1:06 pm
I need a good recipe for good old grilled burgers. Lately, I find the ones I've made have turned out bland. Somebody give me their advice on anything you want about grilled burgers....meat blend, seasonings, marinades(?), whatever. I'm ready to try some new ideas.
Posted on 2/4/15 at 1:15 pm to Boudreaux35
I use the fattiest meat I can find, make them extra large (since they will shrink alot because of the fat) and I always add a few tbsp of olive oil as well for moistness. I add an egg for a binder and a handful of breadcrumbs as well to give a softer texture. Sometimes add diced, grilled onions and peppers into the mixture as far as vegetables. Mainly season with sea salt, ground black pepper, garlic powder, and alot of cayenne.
Also, an extremely hot grill/cast iron pan is a must to get a good crust along with a medium burger on the inside.
Also, an extremely hot grill/cast iron pan is a must to get a good crust along with a medium burger on the inside.
This post was edited on 2/4/15 at 1:16 pm
Posted on 2/4/15 at 1:22 pm to Boudreaux35
Fatty meat. Salt and pepper. Cast iron in some bacon grease.
Nix all the bread crumbs and egg stuff to keep it together. You don't need it.
Nix all the bread crumbs and egg stuff to keep it together. You don't need it.
Posted on 2/4/15 at 1:23 pm to Boudreaux35
Please don't put egg and breadcrumbs in them. Please.
Don't mush it up with a ton of seasoning and shite, overworking it. Some of the most flavorful burgers have none of that.
Fatty meat. I use 70/30, but 80/20 is fine.
Handle as little as possible. No ball rolling and mushing. Gentle forming. Patty doesn't have to be perfect. Keep the meat really cold for this.
Dimple once formed into patties. This ensures you don't have a dome burger.
Season GENEROUSLY with salt and pepper once formed into patties.
If you prefer the grill, go for it, but I'm a cast iron burger type of person.
Do not press on the burgers to "flatten" them. If you do press (like Smashburger), you do it immediately as they hit the heat. Basically you're pressing the raw meat. Don't press cooked meat. You're squeezing everything out.
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Don't mush it up with a ton of seasoning and shite, overworking it. Some of the most flavorful burgers have none of that.
Fatty meat. I use 70/30, but 80/20 is fine.
Handle as little as possible. No ball rolling and mushing. Gentle forming. Patty doesn't have to be perfect. Keep the meat really cold for this.
Dimple once formed into patties. This ensures you don't have a dome burger.
Season GENEROUSLY with salt and pepper once formed into patties.
If you prefer the grill, go for it, but I'm a cast iron burger type of person.
Do not press on the burgers to "flatten" them. If you do press (like Smashburger), you do it immediately as they hit the heat. Basically you're pressing the raw meat. Don't press cooked meat. You're squeezing everything out.
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This post was edited on 2/4/15 at 1:46 pm
Posted on 2/4/15 at 1:25 pm to Jones
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Cast iron in some bacon grease.
Posted on 2/4/15 at 1:29 pm to Boudreaux35
I mix some 80/20 ground chuck with some 90/10 ground sirlion at a 50/50 ratio. The sirloin has the nice beef flavor and the chuck lends some fat to keep it juicy. Salt and pepper on the outside, don't handle the patties too much and right into a blazing hot cast iron skillet.
Posted on 2/4/15 at 1:31 pm to Jones
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Nix all the bread crumbs and egg stuff to keep it together. You don't need it.
How much flavor do you think 1 egg dispersed across about 2-3 lbs of ground meat adds? Pretty much zero. It does, however, absolutely work as a binder. It is not necessary, but it does help. I have made burgers with and without and the burgers with an egg in them hold up better. The ones without, if one little crack gets in there during the initial grilling process, a chunck will fall off.
As far as breadcrumbs, that is strictly a texture additive as it doesnt do anything for flavor either.
This post was edited on 2/4/15 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 2/4/15 at 1:32 pm to LouisianaLady
Listen to LL. Good stuff there. You can also use a little fish sauce if you find your burger lacking umami.
Posted on 2/4/15 at 1:33 pm to dnm3305
My response had nothing to do with flavor
Posted on 2/4/15 at 1:37 pm to LouisianaLady
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Please don't put egg and breadcrumbs in them. Please. Don't mush it up with a ton of seasoning and shite, overworking it. Some of the most flavorful burgers have none of that shite. Fatty meat. I use 70/30, but 80/20 is fine. Handle as little as possible. No ball rolling and mushing. Gentle forming. Patty doesn't have to be perfect. Keep the meat really cold for this. Dimple once formed into patties. This ensures you don't have a dome burger. Season GENEROUSLY with salt and pepper once formed into patties. If you prefer the grill, go for it, but I'm a cast iron burger type of person. Do not press on the burgers to "flatten" them. If you do press (like Smashburger), you do it immediately as they hit the heat. Basically you're pressing the raw meat. Don't press cooked meat. You're squeezing everything out.
Perfect advice. I only form the patties to where they barely stay together. The less dense the patty, the better. I find they cook faster and stay more moist.
No need for eggs or bread crumbs. Don't put onions in the patties. If you want onions, add them to the burger.
I like the fattest meat content. In a skillet, let them cook in the fat they render.
Thinner and wider is better than thicker and less round. You'll end up with a meatball.
ETA: Maybe a little Worcestershire before you form the patties. Not too much though, because it's strong.
This post was edited on 2/4/15 at 1:40 pm
Posted on 2/4/15 at 1:39 pm to Jones
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My response had nothing to do with flavor
Seemed obvious.
Posted on 2/4/15 at 1:40 pm to LouisianaLady
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LouisianaLady
Yep - except I like to grill'em over mesquite.
Posted on 2/4/15 at 1:40 pm to Boudreaux35
I use Ground Round 85/15. Form patties. Heavy salt and pepper. Grill high heat for 3 minutes a side. Don't squeeze them!! Lastly, don't be afraid of a medium burger.
Posted on 2/4/15 at 1:43 pm to BayouBlitz
I find that salting and peppering after cooking is a good idea.
Pepper can burn, and salt can change the texture of meat.
Pepper can burn, and salt can change the texture of meat.
Posted on 2/4/15 at 1:45 pm to Hoodoo Man
You're okay salting immediately before.
Burger Lab: Salting Ground Beef
Burger Lab: Salting Ground Beef
This post was edited on 2/4/15 at 1:46 pm
Posted on 2/4/15 at 1:46 pm to dnm3305
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How much flavor do you think 1 egg dispersed across about 2-3 lbs of ground meat adds? Pretty much zero. It does, however, absolutely work as a binder. It is not necessary, but it does help. I have made burgers with and without and the burgers with an egg in them hold up better. The ones without, if one little crack gets in there during the initial grilling process, a chunck will fall off.
As far as breadcrumbs, that is strictly a texture additive as it doesnt do anything for flavor either.
No numbnuts, neither do shite to the flavor. What they do is dry it the frick out. That's just science.
Posted on 2/4/15 at 1:47 pm to Hoodoo Man
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I find that salting and peppering after cooking is a good idea.
Pepper can burn, and salt can change the texture of meat.
That pepper crust is sooooooo freaking good though.
Posted on 2/4/15 at 1:48 pm to LouisianaLady
Yeah, that's what I was referencing.
I love that Serious Eats site.
But I mean, I believe they said you only get seconds to minutes before stuff starts happening.
I don't like that stress.
I made smashburgers recently.
They seared really well without seasonings, and salting and peppering after worked just fine.
So, food for thought.
I love that Serious Eats site.
But I mean, I believe they said you only get seconds to minutes before stuff starts happening.
I don't like that stress.
I made smashburgers recently.
They seared really well without seasonings, and salting and peppering after worked just fine.
So, food for thought.
Posted on 2/4/15 at 1:49 pm to Hoodoo Man
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I love that Serious Eats site.
Me too.
quote:
They seared really well without seasonings, and salting and peppering after worked just fine.
So, food for thought.
Interesting.
This post was edited on 2/4/15 at 1:50 pm
Posted on 2/4/15 at 1:51 pm to LouisianaLady
By the way, I love making smashburgers.
With a dry surface hot enough, you can get tons of seared crust and still get a sliver of pink in the middle.
And you can stack those with cheese on a potato bun.
Potato buns are a definite recommendation for any burger, incidentally.
With a dry surface hot enough, you can get tons of seared crust and still get a sliver of pink in the middle.
And you can stack those with cheese on a potato bun.
Potato buns are a definite recommendation for any burger, incidentally.
This post was edited on 2/4/15 at 1:52 pm
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