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re: Homebrewing Thread: Volume II

Posted on 2/7/17 at 5:32 pm to
Posted by I_heart_beer
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Posted on 2/7/17 at 5:32 pm to
I read every post on the last page
What did I say that made you think otherwise?
Posted by BugAC
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Posted on 2/7/17 at 8:49 pm to
Well the pic you posted and the one in the previous page looks drastically different.

But I get you with the oats and haze. I've read articles that you can get plenty of haze and mouthfeel just by playing with your water chemistry. I hope mine brightens up, right now it looks like muddy water. But if it tastes fantastic then I don't really care. That being said, if it does not look the way I want it this time I'll lower my oats/spelt amount.

Right now, I'm just trying to nail down the flavor i want. I'll tinker from there.
Posted by BMoney
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Posted on 2/7/17 at 9:35 pm to
The lightning of that one isn't doing it any favors. This is the same recipe, different hops.



But if you don't like the turbid look, you don't like the turbid look. Doesn't seem much different than the Trillium beers.



Posted by BMoney
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Posted on 2/7/17 at 9:39 pm to
quote:

I don't get adding oats and such just to increase the haze/turbidity.


I add the oats for mouthfeel. Also carapils, a higher mash temp and a yeast that doesn't attenuate quite as much. It all lends to a bigger bodied beer to help stand up to all the hops. Light bodied, dry IPAs can end up tasting like hop tea, and isn't quite as enjoyable. To me.
Posted by I_heart_beer
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Posted on 2/8/17 at 6:11 am to
quote:

Right now, I'm just trying to nail down the flavor i want. I'll tinker from there.


quote:

Light bodied, dry IPAs can end up tasting like hop tea, and isn't quite as enjoyable. To me.



Makes sense. And that beer in the cat glass looks good, so it must just be the lighting making that other pic look browner, not as orange. Either way, wasn't trying to be negative, keep on tinkering
Posted by GregMaddux
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Posted on 2/8/17 at 9:24 am to
quote:


What did I say that made you think otherwise?


Nothing I just really like that picture of my beer.
Posted by CarRamrod
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Posted on 2/8/17 at 9:50 am to
hey i was messing around with beersmith trying to learn it, with your recipe and im getting a pretty low OG with all your ingredients. Do you have that recipe in a program, and mind emailing me the brew day report, to see if i get my numbers to match?
Posted by GregMaddux
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Posted on 2/8/17 at 9:57 am to
I do not. You put that sugar in there?

How low? What grain efficiency?
This post was edited on 2/8/17 at 9:58 am
Posted by CarRamrod
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Posted on 2/8/17 at 10:07 am to
yea i did, im not at my computer i did this on but i can send it to you when i get home to let you take a look at it. i think i left the standard 75% efficiency on there.

shoot me an email and ill send it to you then i get home. carramrod.u91 at gmail
This post was edited on 2/8/17 at 10:09 am
Posted by BugAC
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Posted on 2/8/17 at 10:16 am to
Make sure your batch size is correct too.
Posted by CarRamrod
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Posted on 2/8/17 at 10:38 am to
yea i have it at 5.

also, if i were to brew something like this saturday or sunday, would it be too long if i had to leave it in the primary till the next sunday? Ill be out of town all week.
This post was edited on 2/8/17 at 12:14 pm
Posted by BugAC
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Posted on 2/8/17 at 1:10 pm to
quote:

also, if i were to brew something like this saturday or sunday, would it be too long if i had to leave it in the primary till the next sunday? Ill be out of town all week.




Not at all. Fermentation usually takes anywhere from 7-10 days. Now i don't know his hopping schedule, but if he did a mid-ferm dry hop then you may miss out on doing that. But if you're just planning doing a standard post ferm dry hop, then you are fine.
Posted by BugAC
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Posted on 2/8/17 at 1:11 pm to
Has anyone tried pre-ferm dry hopping? A few recipe's i've seen call for a small pre-ferm dry hop, basically dry hopping just before pitching yeast. The recipes i saw had about 1/2 oz.
Posted by CarRamrod
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Posted on 2/8/17 at 1:15 pm to
quote:

Not at all. Fermentation usually takes anywhere from 7-10 days. Now i don't know his hopping schedule, but if he did a mid-ferm dry hop then you may miss out on doing that. But if you're just planning doing a standard post ferm dry hop, then you are fine.
yea i did hop after 4 days. i guess i would have to try and coach my wife to do that.

quote:

basically dry hopping just before pitching yeast.
idt if it would make a difference chemically if you did right before or right after pitching they yeast. but im just getting into all this dry hopping stuff.
This post was edited on 2/8/17 at 1:17 pm
Posted by BugAC
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Posted on 2/8/17 at 3:04 pm to
quote:

idt if it would make a difference chemically if you did right before or right after pitching they yeast. but im just getting into all this dry hopping stuff.



Well, I would think it has something to do with inhibiting yeast attenuation. The traditional wisdom before the NEIPA craze was to dry hop at the end of ferm, as the hop oils would slow down and/or halt the yeast from doing their thing.

Then new research has come out that states that certain hop oils attach themselves to the yeast cells, preventing the yeast from fully flocculating and staying in suspension longer. It also states that this could inhibit yeast growth. Not sure how much a pre-ferm hop addition would do to this. I assume not much, seeing as whirlpool additions effectively do the same thing. The only difference is you are filtering out the hop trub prior to it going in the ferm vessel, that and the whirlpool temperature used to extract those oils.

Biotransformation is the key word with these earlier dry hop additions.

LINK
This post was edited on 2/8/17 at 3:07 pm
Posted by BMoney
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Posted on 2/8/17 at 10:30 pm to
First pour from the keg:

Posted by I_heart_beer
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 5:46 am to
Now that looks good!
Posted by BugAC
St. George
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 9:04 am to
Here's another 1318 vs. Giga Vermont Ale strain article. This one is from Brulosophy.

LINK
Posted by Fratastic423
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 11:18 am to
If anyone doesn't have plans on Saturday and is in Baton Rouge, you should come out to our Iron Brewer festival fundraiser for the Food Bank. Good times start at 1 in the field next to Tin Roof. Bring some food to donate to the food bank as they really need our help this year.
Posted by Zappas Stache
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 11:57 am to
Thanks for the links B. I have a NEIPA on deck and was wondering when you add the dry hops, do you put them in a hop sock or just dump them in the fermenter?
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