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re: First Time Smoking a Brisket... Advice?

Posted on 5/27/16 at 9:30 am to
Posted by GeauxTigers0107
South Louisiana
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 5/27/16 at 9:30 am to
Yeah that's true. But without seeing his set up it's hard to say. I use a Maverick grate thermometer and ignore the two temp gauges on each lid. One is 30 degrees off and the other is 45. I really need to replace them with good ones.
Posted by RonFNSwanson
University of LSU
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 5/27/16 at 9:35 am to
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Did you wrap the brisket?


Foil wrapped for the last 3 or so hours. Maybe should have started sooner?
Posted by RonFNSwanson
University of LSU
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 5/27/16 at 9:42 am to
quote:

) You're putting too much wood on at a time

I think so. I use a chimney starter. I filled it pretty good the first time, when I threw that on, it struggled to get to 200 degrees. So I added another full batch. Probably just too much the second time. After that stuff burned (3-4 hours) it was easier to maintain when I would add.

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b) Your vents are wide open

I had them closed completely, and I kept throwing water on the fire. It would light back up in a few seconds.

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c) Your temp gauge is bad


I just got a new maverick redi check. Has pit temp and food temp. It seemed very accurate. My smoker is new, the temp gauge on it was a little lower than what the digital one said. But I had the probe right near where the smoke was feeding in.
This post was edited on 5/27/16 at 9:43 am
Posted by GeauxTigers0107
South Louisiana
Member since Oct 2009
9717 posts
Posted on 5/27/16 at 9:47 am to
Yeah it sounds like you just started too hot. I've learned that for brisket, if I want it ready for 7pm, I light my fire at 5am. Let it stabilize for an hour, 12 hour cook (typically) then one hour rest time.
Posted by RonFNSwanson
University of LSU
Member since Mar 2012
23169 posts
Posted on 5/27/16 at 10:01 am to
Good advice. I used to be concerned with wasting too much wood, but I now realize that it's not worth the hassle of having to bust my arse to get the temperature right.
Posted by geauxnc0308
pineywoods of ET
Member since May 2008
537 posts
Posted on 5/27/16 at 10:09 am to
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For those with a BGE


I have a Big Joe, did a brisket last weekend, 13 hours at ~265F and still had lump left
Posted by GeauxTigers0107
South Louisiana
Member since Oct 2009
9717 posts
Posted on 5/27/16 at 10:11 am to
I always start with about two chimney's of Kingsford then about 30 minutes into them stabilizing and burning down I'll add two good chunks of post oak. That leaves me 30 minutes to adjust accordingly. So you're not really wasting too much wood if you follow that process. It just takes repetition for you to find a process that you can manage.
Posted by TexasTiger
Katy TX
Member since Sep 2003
5324 posts
Posted on 5/27/16 at 10:27 am to
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Foil wrapped for the last 3 or so hours. Maybe should have started sooner?


I would say yes. When you lift the lid and see the bark the color you like it you wrap it. A good rule of thumb for me is at the 5-6 hour mark I am lifting the lid to look at the meat.
Posted by Dannunzio
MS
Member since Sep 2011
2238 posts
Posted on 5/27/16 at 7:46 pm to
Bumping this thread as I'm doing my first brisket tomorrow. I am using post oak and hickory on my egg. Planning to pull at 165-170 internal and wrap in foil. Since I will not be able to use my temp probe after that, how long should I cook before I unwrap and check my internal temp? Or can I just stick the probe through the foil? I'm probably overthinking this, I know.
Posted by GeauxTigers0107
South Louisiana
Member since Oct 2009
9717 posts
Posted on 5/27/16 at 10:28 pm to
I'd advise wrapping sooner if your bark is nice and dark. It all depends on what temp you plan on running at for the first few hours though.

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Since I will not be able to use my temp probe after that,


Yes you will...stick it right through the foil. And when you wrap, don't be afraid to put a little beef broth in to help tenderize it to finish. Good luck!
This post was edited on 5/27/16 at 10:32 pm
Posted by Front9Bandit
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 5/27/16 at 10:40 pm to
When you cooking? I'm hungry
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
22764 posts
Posted on 5/28/16 at 2:42 am to
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quote: his real rub recipe First I've ever heard of that. And I've watched a lot of his videos. Where did you get that?


I have his cookbook and he gives many little hints and suggestions to add to your rub but never comes out and says it he also highly suggests he adds things in the restaurant but never gives the official recipe.

Upon doing some further research I came across an article with the owner of La Barbecue in Austin. He was Franklin's right hand man for years when he first started then branched out on his own. He I and I think he gives the pickle juice/mustard trick in that book too. He gives out his recipes a lot and even says people can come down to his restaurant and he'll help you with your cooking, seems like a really nice guy. He gave out the recipe that i previously listed. I put two and two together and came to the confusion that is basically Franklin's real rub recipe. I've also read people hinting that Franklin doesn't give all his secrets on those videos.

I also got the pickle juice/mustard pre rub from both Franklin's cookbook and the La Barbecue owner, they both use it, hence the rub being the same also.
This post was edited on 5/28/16 at 2:44 am
Posted by Uncle JackD
Member since Nov 2007
58639 posts
Posted on 5/28/16 at 8:49 am to
For those who use kamodo style cookers.. Do you always wrap with foil? I've never wrapped anything before.
Posted by Dannunzio
MS
Member since Sep 2011
2238 posts
Posted on 5/28/16 at 9:15 am to
I have a BGE and plan to wrap the brisket I'm smoking today. But I've never wrapped a pork shoulder or any other big cuts. I always wrap my ribs after 2 hours of smoking.

Did a lot of research on briskets before I pulled the trigger, and there's a lot of different techniques out there, but wrapping in foil or butcher paper is something everyone does it seems.
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
18073 posts
Posted on 5/28/16 at 9:19 am to
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For those who use kamodo style cookers.. Do you always wrap with foil? I've never wrapped anything before.


I am doing my first brisket today. I just wrapped it in foil. I dont have butcher paper. Anyway, I have been smoking with a water bath in my Kamado, and it is really moist in there......don't know how/if paper would have held up.
Posted by geauxnc0308
pineywoods of ET
Member since May 2008
537 posts
Posted on 5/28/16 at 10:32 am to
quote:

kamodo style cookers.. Do you always wrap with foil?


I've tried both ways, I prefer to wrap (Texas crutch). It definitely cuts down on cook time.
Posted by Uncle JackD
Member since Nov 2007
58639 posts
Posted on 5/28/16 at 10:33 am to
At what temp does the TX crutch say wrap at?
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
18073 posts
Posted on 5/28/16 at 10:46 am to
quote:

At what temp does the TX crutch say wrap at?



Somewhere between 155° and 165°, you should notice that the brisket's internal temp will quit rising. They call this "the stall." Wrap it here.
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
18073 posts
Posted on 5/28/16 at 5:54 pm to
Update: My brisket cooked an hour faster than I expected. Ergo, it rested in a cooler for an extra hour more than I expected. Basically, we ate pot roast. It tasted great, but it completely fell apart when I tried to slice it.

I can't wait to get another crack at it.
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
66417 posts
Posted on 5/28/16 at 6:20 pm to
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It looked like the ending of Apocalypse Now where they hack that cow for slaughter/butcher. Rare is no way to eat brisket.


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