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re: The Levee System, how it works, and how it can fail. Easy to Read

Posted on 5/25/11 at 9:32 am to
Posted by the only dirt mcgirt
baton rouge
Member since May 2011
924 posts
Posted on 5/25/11 at 9:32 am to
the OP was quite reasonable in this thread. only "shots" i've taken were in reference to the laughable idea that the high water in the mississippi will somehow equate to a 7m global sea level rise (see "this is fun, see where you are")
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 5/25/11 at 9:58 am to
Yeah, saw that one.

Maybe he's a kid or something...
Posted by halleburton
Member since Dec 2009
1519 posts
Posted on 5/25/11 at 10:32 am to
Here's the link to OP's first 3 points.

plagiarizer!

Here are the rest.

LINK

20 years in ACOE right?
Posted by the only dirt mcgirt
baton rouge
Member since May 2011
924 posts
Posted on 5/25/11 at 10:42 am to
Nice. I assumed the OP paraphrased other sources, but I didn't do the plagiarism check.
Posted by BROffshoreTigerFan
Edmond, OK
Member since Oct 2007
10004 posts
Posted on 5/25/11 at 10:52 am to
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SO my guess is no one knows and its easier to take shots at his character, education, or anything else not related to the facts.


I was asking his background to see what knowledge he has. And in reading the rest of the thread, it appears he copied and pasted from someone who actually knows about it.

I have no problem if he wants to copy and paste, but don't pass it off as your work or words.
Posted by JulianD
Member since May 2011
49 posts
Posted on 5/25/11 at 11:16 am to
The most blatant plagiarism was claiming the sea level map was his own work. It had an authorship link on the page. Sigh...
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 5/25/11 at 11:18 am to
Posted by DollaChoppa
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Posted on 5/25/11 at 11:53 am to
I liked it when he called you Julie
Posted by JulianD
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 5/25/11 at 12:09 pm to
Fine by me :-)
Posted by BROffshoreTigerFan
Edmond, OK
Member since Oct 2007
10004 posts
Posted on 5/25/11 at 12:50 pm to


so where is doom and gloom at now?
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 5/25/11 at 2:13 pm to
I think there isn't anyone on the thread/board that doubts this kind of thing can happen, but it can happen any year with a lot less level than what we have now.

The problem I have is that it is pitched as "if this happens we are screwed" and that isn't really the case. Look at the picture from Darrow in 83, that is extremely bad and there was no breach. Will a part of the levee slough off? possibly, but this isn't ground breaking info or a situation that can't be handled.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 5/25/11 at 2:43 pm to
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NO ONE actually discredits his erosion theory.


His erosion thoery is bunk. water velocities are greatest at maximum flow, therefore the chance for erosion are greatest then too. The danger of a sudden draw down is with slope failure as pictured in the Darrow photograph and stated by several including me in the other thread.

Posted by bbrownso
Member since Mar 2008
8985 posts
Posted on 5/25/11 at 4:33 pm to
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but NO ONE actually discredits his erosion theory.


how the hell are we supposed to disprove erosion? I know I don't continually look at the levees (and I very much doubt he does either). So maybe the onus is on him to show that he knows what he is talking about before he's crowned lord of levee failure knowledge.

I know that erosion happens and that it might happen. However, I also know that erosion is not how planes fly (which he said). If he's that incapable of describing Bernoulli's principle, then I won't really follow his inane rants (save for the entertainment value).
Posted by Ice Cold
Over Macho Grande
Member since Jun 2004
18741 posts
Posted on 5/25/11 at 9:47 pm to
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shaunmccarron29
I googled your name. Has it been discussed that you are a gay male model?
Posted by knorth
Southern California
Member since Jun 2010
52 posts
Posted on 5/25/11 at 10:38 pm to
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it can happen any year with a lot less level than what we have now.
But we can't overlook the fact this flooding is unique. Several records for water levels have been broken and there's a sustained high-water situation lasting for weeks,

1927 is probably the last time conditions were like this. So the current flood control system is being tested unlike any time in the past.

What this means is the USACE needs to continuously monitor the levees for a few more weeks - and we need to avoid any runaway barges that might take out a section of levee.

Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 5/25/11 at 10:48 pm to
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and we need to avoid any runaway barges that might take out a section of levee.


granted my knowledge of barge v levee is extremely limited after seeing what those loose barges did to the shitty old Kaiser dock I am not that worried about one getting away and hitting the levee. maybe if it hit the levee at the speed I have seen some going down the center of the river I would be more concerned.
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 5/26/11 at 4:37 am to
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It is a localized contributing factor.


Always respected your posts, but cannot agree. In water drive reservoirs, the oil and gas is replaced with a denser fluid, salt water. In depletion drive reservoirs, only a small fraction of the total volume is removed. Even if all the vacated pore space collapsed, I cannot see how it could result in any noticeable subsidence at surface.
Posted by BROffshoreTigerFan
Edmond, OK
Member since Oct 2007
10004 posts
Posted on 5/26/11 at 5:32 am to
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I googled your name. Has it been discussed that you are a gay male model?


Coldblooooooded
Posted by JulianD
Member since May 2011
49 posts
Posted on 5/26/11 at 7:01 am to
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But we can't overlook the fact this flooding is unique


True. But if doomsday scenarios are on the table, why stop at an eroded levee? That's SO played out, see the Darrow photo. Awesome, yet not terribly cataclysmic. I vote we turn Shaun onto the 73 scouring at the low sill, and the consequences of ORCS failure. That should perk up my work day!!!
This post was edited on 5/26/11 at 7:02 am
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