Reasons to veto a trade (All discussion here)

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. Is the trade collusion? If yes... veto, if no dont try and manage other owners teams for them.

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this one

How do you determine collusion?

Oh yea, you can't.

it has to be grossly obvious to call it collusion.

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The issue is when and how you determine collusion. This isn't a definite thing. You can only go off of suggestions and evidence. Is the trade so lopsided to where it doesn't make sense? What is the relationship between the partners? Where in the season are we, and is it possible for both teams to make the playoffs?

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I would agree to these and add "borrowing players". Obviously, you can't tell beforehand, but I would not allow the 2nd trade to take place.

Let's say player A has Demarco Murray and wants to trade him for Ben Watson because he goes to church with Ben Watson, you let that go thru?

Looks like you were trying to manage their teams for them.

I've only seen 1 trade that I'm pretty sure was collusion, and I've been playing FF for a while now. It actually didn't get veto'd because a couple other people and I didn't check our accounts for a few days. Oops.

Last year the guy in last place after week 9 I think just started offering all his good players to people for their bench guys. I'm talking like D Thomas for Olsen(other guy had Gronk), AJ Green for Reggie Bush, etc. I was pissed and sent the commish a message and never heard anything back and he let all the trades go through. Oh and he was the one who got D Thomas. It was complete bullshite, but I still beat his arse in the playoffs and won the league.

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Team C trades away Lesean McCoy & Calvin Johnson to Team B for Benjarvis Green Ellis and Joel Dressen

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Was that when BGE was tearing things up and McCoy was not getting the ball consistently (Can't recall if this occurred in the same year)? If that was at the same time, then it doesn't seem that far fetched of an offer, depending on their relationship.

I once had a league where my trade was vetoed when I was giving up a top 15 D and a RB#2 for a RB#3 and a top 15 D because I had a bye week issue. The Commish vetoed the trade bc it didn't appear fair. I just coincidently was playing against his Bro-in-law, if I win that game I eliminate his bro-in-law w 2 weeks until playoffs. I appeal and it goes to a 3 person panel (the commish and his 2 bro-in-laws).

I lose appeal, win game, all 3 people kicked out next season.

The collusion people tell me how you'd handle this

A few years ago when Tebow was playing well, we had a 1-8 team trade Adrian Peterson for him. Basically he didn't give a shite and was just trying to shake up his team. There were 2 other players involved that were insignificant.
The team getting Peterson was in 1st or 2nd.

The guy that got Tebow already had brees, and his next best RBs once he gave up Peterson were terrible.

It wasn't collusion but because he didn't give a shite, nor did the trade not help him, we vetoed it.