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re: No more K & DEF, should I replace them with another position?

Posted on 8/6/14 at 4:57 pm to
Posted by PurpleDrank18
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2011
4508 posts
Posted on 8/6/14 at 4:57 pm to
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Ridley

Well he certainly has been playing like a white guy lately.
Posted by Gtothemoney
Da North Shore
Member since Sep 2012
17715 posts
Posted on 8/6/14 at 5:18 pm to
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I'm confused at what you're getting at..


I wouldn't get rid of the kicker.
Posted by PurpleDrank18
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2011
4508 posts
Posted on 8/6/14 at 5:23 pm to
so you like the randomness of the kicker? Say all your players are on par with the other team, except for the kickers. Yours scores 3, the other guys scores 15, and you end up losing by 5.

My point is theres just no way to gauge a K like you can a RB, WR, QB or TE. There aren't really any metrics for Kickers. We know the tiers of the other positions tho and can strategize accordingly. There's a reason K are the last round picks in most draft. Fantasy already has enough randomness, IMO I want to limit that, if I can. which starts with getting rid of the kicker. Then potentially adding a flex spot instead.

ETA:
I'm not trying to convince you, just showing why people wouldn't like it. If you like the kicker then by all means keep it if it makes FF more fun for ya. I'm just saying i wouldn't lose any sleep if the K position disappeared.
This post was edited on 8/6/14 at 5:30 pm
Posted by papz
Austin, TX
Member since Jul 2008
9330 posts
Posted on 8/6/14 at 5:24 pm to
Fantasy football is random.
Posted by tzimme4
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
28503 posts
Posted on 8/6/14 at 5:25 pm to
Gostkowski was better than a lot of RBs last season. Kickers are worth playing
Posted by PurpleDrank18
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2011
4508 posts
Posted on 8/6/14 at 5:26 pm to
Yes i know, thats kind of my point. As I said THere's already enough randomness, I want to limit that if I can and make it more strategical.
Posted by papz
Austin, TX
Member since Jul 2008
9330 posts
Posted on 8/6/14 at 5:38 pm to
If some prefer to not use kickers, that's fine... to each their own. But I wouldn't use randomness and single out kickers as a reason to omit it. The randomness applies to each and every position. Why not limit randomness by eliminating running backs as well? You get my point.

Randomness makes fantasy football... fantasy football. That's why it appeals to the masses. Everyone, regardless of experience, has a chance to win. You take that away, you lose some of that appeal.
This post was edited on 8/6/14 at 5:40 pm
Posted by PurpleDrank18
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2011
4508 posts
Posted on 8/6/14 at 5:45 pm to
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Why not limit randomness by eliminating running backs as well? You get my point.


No, I don't. (Although I do agree to each their own, if you like kickers, I got no problem.) You can at least make an educated guess at each other skill position. You're not going to start Stevan Ridley over Jamaal Charles. Why? Because we have metrics, stats, matchups, etc to help inform us, that clearly, Charles is the better option. Or even picking between two similar players at their positions. You can research and make the best choice, even if it doens't work out, there was reasons and facts behind your methods.

With kickers we have absolutely NO clue. There are 32 kickers every week that could finish first or last in scoring that week. We have no way of even making an educated guess. At least to the point, you can with other positions.

But as we said, to each their own, I'm not personally a fan of kickers, but I'm not going to quit/ not a join a league because of it. Just in my "perfect" fantasy football world, the kciker would be replaced with another Flex spot.
This post was edited on 8/6/14 at 5:48 pm
Posted by papz
Austin, TX
Member since Jul 2008
9330 posts
Posted on 8/6/14 at 6:18 pm to
I've come to terms that educated guesses in fantasy football means little to nothing. It's no more comforting making an sound logical decision only to have it completely go the other way... which happens all the time. I don't find kickers any more random than any other position which is where we differ.

You can pencil in a kicker for 6-8 points a week. Am I wrong to believe that? So wouldn't that make them pretty consistent as opposed to being random. Occasionally you've have a kicker go off, but it's not a common occurrence a kicker goes for 20 points. And when they do, it's either glorious or gut wrenching depending on which end you're on... which makes it more fun and exciting imo.

Randomness is the epitome of fantasy football. Why limit what it's all about?
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
50713 posts
Posted on 8/6/14 at 10:15 pm to
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Randomness is the epitome of fantasy football. Why limit what it's all about?



If that is the case then why even play? If its random then it doesn't matter what you do.
Posted by PurpleDrank18
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2011
4508 posts
Posted on 8/6/14 at 10:31 pm to
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Randomness is the epitome of fantasy football. Why limit what it's all about? 


We obviously have very different views regarding fantasy football. But nonetheless, good luck to ya this year
Posted by papz
Austin, TX
Member since Jul 2008
9330 posts
Posted on 8/6/14 at 10:32 pm to
Because it's fun... which I would have thought goes without saying. Just because it's random, I'm not saying it doesn't require any skill. At the same time, it's so random any average Joe can do it. You still have to play the odds and hope it works out in your favor... or have the computer do it for you.
Posted by papz
Austin, TX
Member since Jul 2008
9330 posts
Posted on 8/6/14 at 10:32 pm to
Posted by Gtothemoney
Da North Shore
Member since Sep 2012
17715 posts
Posted on 8/6/14 at 10:33 pm to
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If that is the case then why even play?


To win the game. Hello?

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If its random then it doesn't matter what you do.
Posted by wrlakers
Member since Sep 2007
5748 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 1:13 pm to
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My question is, should I add another flex or position(s) or stand pat at what I have?


I have never done this, but I have heard of leagues that do. You can have a position called coach. That position is similar to scoring of defense, but allows points for offensive scoring, too. That would combine the defensive and kicking with offense in one position.

Could be fun.

By the way, I don't like adding another flex. I just feel like you're getting away from the concept of having a complete fantasy team and instead just aggregating individual efforts.
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