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Keeper question - PPR

Posted on 8/10/15 at 6:05 am
Posted by steakbombLSU
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Posted on 8/10/15 at 6:05 am
10 team ppr, qb 6 pts per td / 1 per 25 yds

Keep 2 and lose the round you drafted them in last year. If you picked them up off waivers you lose your pick in the last round(s).

3 options worth considering:

CJ Anderson - lose 15th round pick (definitely doing this)
AJ Green - lose 2nd round pick OR:
Ben Roethlisberger - lose 14th round pick

So definitely keeping Anderson for 15th round pick but can't decide what to do with the other 2.

Keep Green and have a #1 WR and try to pick up a QB around 3 or 4 round.

Keep Ben and have all my early picks but risk having someone even less that Green available when I get to second round.

I'm currently leaning to keeping Green.

Also, what are your thoughts on having Anderson as RB 1?
This post was edited on 8/10/15 at 6:06 am
Posted by ItsGeauxTime
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 8/10/15 at 6:30 am to
I'd keep Big Ben. You know some top tier wrs will be thrown back in the pool and you can grab them in the first if you want them there. You could also shoot for another rb and have that completely locked up for the year and get someone like Alshon/Cobb/Hopkins/TY in the second. JMO
Posted by steakbombLSU
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Posted on 8/10/15 at 7:49 am to
I don't know. Looking at it it looks like he will be the first or maybe second WR available after all the keepers are said and done. I'm wrestling with is it worth it to risk losing what would potentially be my WR #1
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 8/10/15 at 8:19 am to
Without knowing anymore details about whose being kept, id say Big Ben.

My ten team keeper, AJ Green went 3rd round. But we don't let anyone keep in the first 3 rounds
Posted by steakbombLSU
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Posted on 8/10/15 at 8:25 am to
I would say that the majority of the first and second round picks will be kept and probably half are value keepers in later rounds. People drafting in the first and second round will basically be drafting 2nd and 3rd round players.
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 8/10/15 at 8:28 am to
That's why you don't let people keep players that high
Posted by steakbombLSU
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Posted on 8/10/15 at 8:34 am to
Ya well I'm not really complaining because I'm benefitting from it too. I'm just explaining the dynamics behind my decision making. It does make it interesting and you get rewarded if you make smart waiver picks, which is a good way to reward good team management.
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 8/10/15 at 10:07 am to
I don't think you're really benefitting here though
Posted by steakbombLSU
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Posted on 8/10/15 at 11:01 am to
CJ Anderson in the 15th round isn't a benefit?

Ben in the 14th isn't a benefit?

You serious?

If I don't take aj in the second it is guaranteed he will go in the first with who will be left on the board after keepers.
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 8/10/15 at 11:20 am to
quote:

CJ Anderson in the 15th round isn't a benefit? Ben in the 14th isn't a benefit?


Irrelevant to my point about not letting keepers for the first three rounds. But I digress
Posted by steakbombLSU
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Posted on 8/10/15 at 12:16 pm to
To that point I agree it is irrelevant but I was responding to your statement about benefit. Regardless, I think we're somewhere around the same page.
Posted by PurpleDrank18
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 8/10/15 at 1:52 pm to
quote:

You know some top tier wrs will be thrown back in the pool and you can grab them in the first if you want them there.


So why would you spend a first on one, when you can guarantee yourself one with a second? Makes no sense. I'm assuming the WR pool will become shallower the closer it gets to that 2nd rounder.

I'd go Green. Sure Ben had a couple huge games last year but he's not any more special than the QBs you can get later on as well (Romo, Rivers, Tannehill, etc.), at least not worth it to give up Green. Just my thought process tho.
This post was edited on 8/10/15 at 1:55 pm
Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 8/10/15 at 3:18 pm to
I'd take a look at the other teams and educate guess their keepers.

With 10 teams, there are only 20 possible keepers.

I think if you analyze it, the pool of available players in 1st and 2nd round will probably surprise you.

If teams are keeping AB 2nd/3rd round, OBJ late rounds, Hopkins middle rounds, etc it means they're likely to release their 1st/2nd round pick from last season.

That means guys above AJ in ADP - both RB and WR could be available depending on player pool and your draft position.

To answer your other question, CJ is going as a RB1 in every draft I've seen.
Posted by ItsGeauxTime
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 8/10/15 at 5:30 pm to
While I agree it's good value either way you go, I just believe Big Ben (with all his weapons) is the better value at the very end of the draft. You're likely getting a QB1 (top 10 in a ten team league) for basically no cost. I personally have Green ranked around my WR 9 or 10, which you may or may not agree with. So locking up what should be an RB1 and a QB1 for next to no cost, I feel like it gives me some wiggle room at the beginning of the draft and wouldn't feel bad for reaching for one of the 8 or 9 guys I have ranked ahead of Green (assuming any are there). I know it's a risk but the guy asked for opinions and that was mine.
Posted by steakbombLSU
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Posted on 8/10/15 at 10:06 pm to
Oh yea I am def keeping CJ. Deciding between Ben and aj.

I have analyzed the other teams and I know who I think they are picking. I have the second pick in the first round and based on who is left I will either take lacy or Julio jones, depending on who the first guy takes.

Then there will only be like 6-7 players who I rank higher than aj available before my second round pick, meaning if I drop aj I will almost certainly be drafting someone I have ranked lower than him in the second round.

So I am leaning toward aj, so I will have lacy/jones, aj, and CJ Anderson after my first two rounds and pick up a qb later on.

ItsGeauxTime: I am on same line of thinking as you are, it's just that small area of where do you have aj ranked next to the people right around him, and who will be available at my pick in the second round. Based on anticipated keepers and where I have him ranked, i think I would be getting someone less valuable than him.

It's definitely hard to pass up Big Ben with that much value. Tough decision either way
This post was edited on 8/10/15 at 10:09 pm
Posted by PurpleDrank18
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 8/10/15 at 10:29 pm to
A team with

QB X
CJ Anderson
Lacy/Julio
Green

would be hard to beat week in and week out regardless of your QB. You can throw in any top 12 guy really and be perfectly fine. You can get Ryan, Romo, Tannehill, Eli, Rivers all in the 8-11 rd. range. Keeping AJ would maximize your team's talent.

As great a year Big Ben had last year he only outscored Tannehill by less than 2 points per week (and just about the 2-point range with 6 pt PaTDs). Is that worth giving up Green for?
Posted by steakbombLSU
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Posted on 8/10/15 at 10:37 pm to
At this point I'm thinking not
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