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re: Fantasy Draft Strategy WR-WR in rounds 1 & 2

Posted on 8/13/14 at 7:47 am to
Posted by lsuhunt555
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Posted on 8/13/14 at 7:47 am to
Was trying to determine if I should do this in m 12 man league this weekend. So I went back and looked at the top 10 RBs and WRs at the end of the year and their ADPs for last year. The ADP for a top 10 WR was 4.8. Eighth pick of the 4th round. The ADP for a top 10 RB was 2.6. Two full rounds ahead of the top 10 WR.

This league is a that is 12 team PPR, and you have to start 3 WRs. My strategy has always been RB/RB then grab as many WRs as you can. I generally make the playoffs every year and have won it once.
Posted by lsuhunt555
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Posted on 8/13/14 at 7:50 am to
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Early picks should be more about minimizing risk. Safer higher floor guys, as opposed to high ceilings. What til middle to late rounds to swing for the fences for high upside guys.



Which is why I think when you see people go WR/WR its usually at the back of the first. Especially when its a 12+ man league.
Posted by Honkus
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Posted on 8/13/14 at 8:04 am to
The problem with going WR/WR is you'll end up with starting RBs like Gore, Mathews, Vereen, Sankey etc. by the 3/4 round. If you're happy with guys like that then go ahead.


I think it's easier to find that break out WR so I'm still going RB early, even picking late in the 1st.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 8/13/14 at 8:23 am to
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he ADP for a top 10 RB was 2.6. Two full rounds ahead of the top 10 WR.



No doubt that number is skewed by the top 4-5 "sure thing" RBs that are taken every year, that go in the top 5 of the draft.


Then at WR you have that number skewed by guys like Alshon Jeffery, Josh Gordon, and Antonio Brown. It doesn't really speak for the other 6 or 7 guys that finished top 10.
Posted by TigeRoots
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 8/13/14 at 8:46 am to
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Haha my bad good catch.

Draft went

Charles
Peyton
AP
McCoy
Lynch
Calvin (Me)


I would have gone Forte there, but I guess you can't go wrong with Mega either.
Posted by Honkus
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 8/13/14 at 8:52 am to
Yea, crazy that Forte fell to 7 in a PPR. Takes all kinds I guess.
Posted by Dharma Initiative
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Posted on 8/13/14 at 8:53 am to
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I think it's easier to find that break out WR so I'm still going RB early, even picking late in the 1st.


I think the complete opposite. With the percentages of RBs that bust vs the percentages of WRs that bust, it has to be the opposite of this statement.
Posted by lsuhunt555
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Posted on 8/13/14 at 9:05 am to
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No doubt that number is skewed by the top 4-5 "sure thing" RBs that are taken every year, that go in the top 5 of the draft.


Isnt that part of the argument? The top 4-5 WRs taken last year only 2 finished in the top 6.
quote:

Then at WR you have that number skewed by guys like Alshon Jeffery, Josh Gordon, and Antonio Brown

And at RB you had that number skewed by the lowest ADP of all the drafted players in Moreno, so yea it works.
Posted by lsuhunt555
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Posted on 8/13/14 at 9:06 am to
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With the percentages of RBs that bust vs the percentages of WRs that bust, it has to be the opposite of this statement.


Again, it depends on where you are drafting. If you are drafting in spots 1-4 this year, youll be fine with a RB. If you are drafting in the 11 spot, then maybe not so much.
Posted by josh336
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Posted on 8/13/14 at 9:15 am to
Im draftin in the 8&9 spots this year, which is why im asking
Posted by lsuhunt555
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Posted on 8/13/14 at 9:17 am to
Yea, thats the area where taking RB/RB could get hairy.
Posted by Honkus
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 8/13/14 at 9:21 am to
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you are drafting in spots 1-4 this year, youll be fine with a RB.



You could have said the same last year..

Doug Martin #2 in ADP BUST
Arian Foster #4 BUST
SPILLER #5 BUST


Let's face it, all 1st round picks carry risk of not living up to their draft position. The top 5 aren't immune to falling on their face. Charles could be this year's Foster. Lacy this year's Martin, etc.
Posted by Honkus
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 8/13/14 at 9:23 am to
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With the percentages of RBs that bust vs the percentages of WRs that bust, 


Which are..?

More WRs = More chance to break out. Also with the proliferation of the RBBC, I think it makes getting a bell cow early even more important
Posted by oreeg
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Posted on 8/13/14 at 9:25 am to
After the top 5 RBs are gone the the next 10 or 12 RBs all have the same risk/reward. There's only maybe 6 elite WRs in this years draft. Your best bet is to try and get 2 of those elite WRs because those RBs will be there in rounds 3-4.

In my opinion, guys like Lynch, Murray, Foster, Martin, Bell and Ball all have huge question marks for this season. The first and second rounds are not a good time to take guys with questions.
Posted by lsuhunt555
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Posted on 8/13/14 at 9:25 am to
Ill go this route, Martin & Foster got hurt, which is really unforeseen. I know it happens, but it could have happened to the 10th and 11th pick also.

Spiller just sucks.
Posted by oreeg
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Posted on 8/13/14 at 9:39 am to
How many "bell cow" RBs are there in the NFL today?

5? 6? Hell even Lynch is being discussed are losing carries to C. Michael.
Posted by lsuhunt555
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Posted on 8/13/14 at 9:41 am to
Charles, McCoy, AP, Forte, Lacy. Thats about it.

Maybe a case could be made for Martin, Lynch, Foster and Stacy.
Posted by NOFLyZ0ne28
West Florida
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 8/13/14 at 9:42 am to
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How many "bell cow" RBs are there in the NFL today?
ONE. Toby freaking Gerhart! Which makes going WR/WR in rounds 1-2 no matter where you're drafting, a great option this year.

Chalk it up now, McCoy and Charles will not have repeat seasons. Lacy could easily fall into a sophomore slump, ala D. Martin. AP is the only "safe" pick in regards to those top 5 RB's. IMO. Go WR/WR and hope to get lucky with Ellington falling to you in the 3rd, then go Gerhart early 4th. BAM!
This post was edited on 8/13/14 at 9:45 am
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 8/13/14 at 9:46 am to
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To me it's always about value. I dont care what round it is
Posted by lsuhunt555
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Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 8/13/14 at 9:47 am to
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ONE. Toby freaking Gerhart!


Yea thats it, only one and its a guy who has never had more than 100 carries and plays for an awful team.
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