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re: Fantasy Board Regulars 2014 Thread
Posted on 8/3/14 at 8:32 pm to GynoSandberg
Posted on 8/3/14 at 8:32 pm to GynoSandberg
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I don't think he's really slow either. had the 2nd fastest 20 yd shuttle and 3rd fastest 60 yd shuttle amongst RBs at 230 lb. He may be fricked on 40 yd runs though- 15th fastest RB at 4.56. Nice blend of power and speed
third best broad jump and fourth best vertical as well
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Posted on 8/3/14 at 8:34 pm to TigerTatorTots
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Williams is a very interesting rookie running back for me. His numbers as a senior were unbelievable. There were two numbers that stood out to me more than the 2,177 rushing yards and 18 touchdowns. Those numbers were the insanely high 355 rushing attempts and the big fat zero he put up in the receptions department.
Limits his value tremendously, IMO.
Posted on 8/3/14 at 8:56 pm to Gtothemoney
I mean, you can't catch balls that aren't thrown to you. I don't know much about BCs offense or QB etc, but the other RB had 60 rushing attempts and only 5 receptions last year
Montrel Harris had 300 attempts and 8 receptions under the same regime a few years prior. Maybe they just didn't throw to the RBs
shite, rashad Jennings wasn't a pass catcher in college. Montee Ball wasn't. Most 230 RB aren't featured in the passing games in college, right?
Anyways, the fact that the giants have 3 potential RB limits all of their value tremendously
Montrel Harris had 300 attempts and 8 receptions under the same regime a few years prior. Maybe they just didn't throw to the RBs
shite, rashad Jennings wasn't a pass catcher in college. Montee Ball wasn't. Most 230 RB aren't featured in the passing games in college, right?
Anyways, the fact that the giants have 3 potential RB limits all of their value tremendously
Posted on 8/3/14 at 9:07 pm to GynoSandberg
quote:Williams/Wilson have no more right to eating into Jennings workload than Anderson/Hillman to Ball and Ivory/Powell to Chris Johnson. Just using those as examples since they are on your team.
Anyways, the fact that the giants have 3 potential RB limits all of their value tremendously
Posted on 8/3/14 at 9:21 pm to GynoSandberg
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shite, rashad Jennings wasn't a pass catcher in college.
Had 37 catches the last 2 years at Liberty. Not too too bad.
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Montee Ball wasn't
And if Montee Ball wasn't in Denver's offense, he'd be more like Ron Dayne. A big RB who was hyped in college, but just couldn't shine in the pros. Now, I'll admit it's too early to put Ball in that "bust" category yet, but he's another RB projected too early based on the situation he's in without producing he numbers. IMO.
Posted on 8/3/14 at 9:23 pm to TigerTatorTots
Well, Ball has the starting job. He has to suck to lose it and Denver is already committed to giving their RB1 250 carries with the rest getting minimal scraps barring injury. So if he sucks then I'm fricked. At least Hillman sucks and Anderson was in camp 20 lbs overweight.
The Jets have the same situation as the Giants. 3 guys with no clear cut RB1. Im not sold on CJ2K getting the bulk, but there is hope for him because he's has a different skill set and they are lining him up in the slot. Jennings is at least in a similar situation bc Williams doesn't have the experience in the passing game. Wilson being out is huge for Jennings if it allows him to secure 3rd down duties. Im not saying the dude sucks, just saying Williams is good, Jennings is good, and Wilson was good. Just cloudy.
The Jets have the same situation as the Giants. 3 guys with no clear cut RB1. Im not sold on CJ2K getting the bulk, but there is hope for him because he's has a different skill set and they are lining him up in the slot. Jennings is at least in a similar situation bc Williams doesn't have the experience in the passing game. Wilson being out is huge for Jennings if it allows him to secure 3rd down duties. Im not saying the dude sucks, just saying Williams is good, Jennings is good, and Wilson was good. Just cloudy.
Posted on 8/3/14 at 9:28 pm to Gtothemoney
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And if Montee Ball wasn't in Denver's offense, he'd be more like Ron Dayne. A big RB who was hyped in college, but just couldn't shine in the pros. Now, I'll admit it's too early to put Ball in that "bust" category yet, but he's another RB projected too early based on the situation he's in without producing he numbers. IMO.
that's like comparing white players only to other white players
Ron Dayne was 260 lbs
Ball is being under drafted if anything. Can't beat it to death enough, just have to wait for it to play out
Posted on 8/3/14 at 9:30 pm to GynoSandberg
I think it's pretty obvious that based off of this game that Williams is a top-7 back by year's end.
Posted on 8/3/14 at 9:38 pm to GynoSandberg
C'mon Legend. Montee played in 16 games and he had 558 yds rushing with 4 TDS. He added 20 catches for 145 yds and 0 TDS. He's under drafted?
If he weren't in Denver's offense lining up with Peyton Manning, he'd be a mid/late round pick, if that.
If he weren't in Denver's offense lining up with Peyton Manning, he'd be a mid/late round pick, if that.
Posted on 8/3/14 at 9:40 pm to Gtothemoney
Posted on 8/3/14 at 9:45 pm to Gtothemoney
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C'mon Legend. Montee played in 16 games and he had 558 yds rushing with 4 TDS. He added 20 catches for 145 yds and 0 TDS. He's under drafted?
If he weren't in Denver's offense lining up with Peyton Manning, he'd be a mid/late round pick, if that.
So in this hypothetical, he's overrated/overdrafted under the assumption he's on another team?
I don't really care if he's a mediocre RB in a great situation
Posted on 8/3/14 at 9:50 pm to GynoSandberg
Let me ask you this. Same Montee Ball, same stats he had last year, but he's with a offense that's ranked not last, but in the bottom third of the league. Is he going in the 2nd round? Is he going in the 3rd, 4th, 5th round?
Btw, I'm not trying to be a dick in case my tone if being mistaken.
Btw, I'm not trying to be a dick in case my tone if being mistaken.
Posted on 8/3/14 at 9:51 pm to Gtothemoney
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Let me ask you this. Same Montee Ball, same stats he had last year, but he's with a offense that's ranked not last, but in the bottom third of the league. Is he going in the 2nd round? Is he going in the 3rd, 4th, 5th round?
what if mccoy plays for the jags is he a top 2 overall... what the frick is your point?
Posted on 8/3/14 at 9:51 pm to GynoSandberg
I'm in agreement with your assessments there.
Posted on 8/3/14 at 9:52 pm to CE Tiger
Posted on 8/3/14 at 10:01 pm to Gtothemoney
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Let me ask you this. Same Montee Ball, same stats he had last year, but he's with a offense that's ranked not last, but in the bottom third of the league. Is he going in the 2nd round? Is he going in the 3rd, 4th, 5th round?
Were his numbers bad last year or something? He was the RB2 in Denver. Ball's accumulative numbers weren't there, obviously. 15 carries was the most he saw in a game.
11/61 vs OAK
7/40 vs NE
13/117 vs KC
15/77 vs TEN
10/72 vs OAK
10/52 vs SD
That's not even with his receiving stats. He gashed defenses in limited duty.
I don't know were he would be drafted in another offense nor do I really care
Posted on 8/3/14 at 10:01 pm to CE Tiger
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what if mccoy plays for the jags is he a top 2 overall.
Jesus, are you gonna compare Lesean McCoy to Montee Ball?
McCoy's numbers the last 5 seasons:
5,473 rushing yds, 39 TDS
2,127 receiving yds, 10 TDS.
Those numbers worthy of #2 overall, derp.
Posted on 8/3/14 at 10:06 pm to GynoSandberg
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Were his numbers bad last year or something?
He actually looked pretty good the last 5 or so games. I just don't see him being a 1st or 2nd round pick.
But Edelman is a 3rd.
Posted on 8/3/14 at 10:21 pm to Gtothemoney
You don't see him as a 1st or 2nd round pick IRL or you don't see him as a 1st or 2nd round pick if he was on a bottom 1/3 offense in the NFL?
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But Edelman is a 3rd.
Im not following. Are you comparing their value?
Ball's situation improved with increased volume, Edelman's got worse with decreased volume. ESPN has Edelman's ADP @ 52 in PPR leagues (you got him @ 34). Ball's is at 18 (I took him 16).
Ball isn't a world beater; neither was Moreno, who was labeled a bust up until last season. I think Ball will have a nice ROI getting him in the 2nd round.
Posted on 8/3/14 at 10:25 pm to GynoSandberg
No, I'm just giving you a hard time like y'all gave me a hard time for reaching on Edelman.
You're right on Knowshon. He started off very slow in Denver. But Peyton wasn't his QB. That's huge. Ball could tear it up for all that I know. I was dead wrong on Jamal Charles last year.
You're right on Knowshon. He started off very slow in Denver. But Peyton wasn't his QB. That's huge. Ball could tear it up for all that I know. I was dead wrong on Jamal Charles last year.
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