re: Cordarrelle Patterson: Why the love?

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Better question for this thread:

Would you rather Patterson in the 4th or Michael Floyd in late 5th or 6th?

Me: I want Floyd. Dude is killing camp and I like the value of Floyd better. Both are talented, but I'll take value every time.

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Patterson

I can draft Michael Floyd potential in the later rounds. Like LE said, he is capped by Fitzgerald.

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Well, on the other hand, a lot of people win leagues in the 4th and 5th round on guys that end up producing 1st and 2nd round numbers.

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Of course. Even more so with 8th/9th rounders that produce like no.1's like Victor Cruz did about 3 yrs ago, or 15th rounders like Moreno did for me last year. Keenan Allen is another, Antonio Brown another. None of those guys were drafted in the 4th/5th round last year. Why? Because they werent worth the risk. You have a better chance of a losing season by botching your draft in the first 5 rounds than you do playing it safe and taking big risks later on.

False big gyne.
He'll finish around 25-30 and be boom or bust all season.

He'll have some big weeks but many stinkers.

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I'm sure you've seen him more than I. How is his route running? Is he a one trick pony (speed)?

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Patterson? His route running is shitty. That's why he fell in the draft. He's not a one trick pony as he seems pretty physical and has leaping ability. I get it, he is what no.1 WR's look like, but I think he has too many things going against him to break out this year and put up 1000 yards like some think he can.

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I work free agency and waivers hard and always end up with the breakout guys.

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Exactly.

Massive part of fantasy and separates the men from the boys.

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my team and I can risk a 5th on Patterson

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but would you take him in the 4th?

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Patterson? His route running is shitty. That's why he fell in the draft. He's not a one trick pony as he seems pretty physical and has leaping ability. I get it, he is what no.1 WR's look like, but I think he has too many things going against him to break out this year and put up 1000 yards like some think he can.

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interpret this however you want.

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That’s the word from Vikings offensive coordinator Norv Turner, who said Patterson has made great strides in getting better at running routes.

“The most obvious thing, and you see it when he returns kicks, is he’s a natural runner,” Turner told FOXSports.com. “He’s got great instincts when he gets the ball in his hand and he makes great run decisions. He’s got great vision. I think from Day 1 to now he’s improved as a route runner. He’s been very serious about working as a route runner.”

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Vikings quarterback Matt Cassel has noticed the same improvement from Patterson.

“I just think his route-running and his ability to recognize defense,” Cassel said. “I think that’s huge for him, and any receiver, as you move forward. The key component, I think, is understanding defenses and how they’re trying to attack you and how you work your different releases.”

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Veteran receiver Greg Jennings, after meeting with new offensive coordinator Norv Turner and seeing the prominent role Patterson would play, sat down with the second-year receiver to make sure he knew the score.

"I wanted him to know that, coming in, the expectation of you is no longer 'rookie.' It's, 'You gotta go. We saw what you can do. We're gonna showcase this,'" Jennings told ESPN.com last week. "For me, it was making sure that he understands that he has to be a professional. He has to be a pro's pro when he steps foot in this building, because we're expecting (him) to give us what we've seen you put out there."

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Like many rookies, Patterson struggled out of the gate understanding routes, timing with his quarterbacks and how defenses played him. However, as the season wore on, Patterson settled in and displayed his exciting, explosive potential.

The 6-foot-2, 23-year-old Patterson caught 24 of his 45 receptions in the Vikings' final six games in 2013, added three rushing touchdowns in that timeframe and, more importantly, started running routes like an NFL receiver.


"As a rookie, not being given a whole lot of opportunities and then coming on strong at the end of the year, the expectation of Eight-Four went to another level. I'm going to be honest: Once I saw him make a couple plays, I'm like, 'We've got to get him the ball. He does too much well for us not to get him the ball.'"

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I know people don't like doing too much research. But I will let you guys in on what they are saying about Patterson. Just remember me when you decide to bite on him in the 5th round of your draft

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Cruz went off in that one game and made the Jets db's look silly. He then made the team out of camp and was moved into the starting lineup in a few wks. Whoever was paying attention drafted him.

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I did. I put a ton of people onto Cruz on this here board actually.

Still, it was hard to decipher if that was just a great preseason game, which a lot of WR's have, or if was going to be a 1k WR. You cant draft someone like that in the mid rounds based off a preseason game.

Same with Allen. Rookie WR's are pimped every year but rarely do they make a great impact.


Moreno's main value came from his receptions last year, and double digit touchdowns. Now did you think Moreno was going to double his career high in receptions? Or score 13 TDs?


Patterson is being drafted higher because he flashed in his rookie year. He isn't coming out of nowhere. In this case, like an undrafted free agent(Cruz), or a retread RB(Moreno), or a wildcard rookie WR(Allen). That's why there is a such a discrepancy in their draft stock. If you dont understand that i dont know what to say.

Is he top 20?

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but would you take him in the 4th?

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I don't know. Depends on what I have and who is available. I don't go in saying I have to get a certain player. But I have enough confidence in him as a WR2 so I don't have a problem getting him in the 4th

At this point in drafts, this is the type of player you are looking at.

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ROUND 5
5.1DCB- Bishop Sankey, RB - question mark
5.2 BHam- Cordarelle Patterson, WR
5.3 Tots- Percy Harvin, WR - huge injury concern
5.4 Drew Orleans- Desean Jackson, WR - new team, inconsistent anyway
5.5 MWG-Joique Bell, RB - it's joique bell
5.6 Dro- Trent Richardson, RB - sucks
5.7 Loose Cannon- Stevan Ridley, RB - who knows?
5.8 CE Tiger- Ray Rice, RB - suspended, sucked last year
5.9 Gyno- Chris Johnson, RB - is what he is
5.10 Gmoney- Frank Gore, RB - old and trending downward
5.11 PCT- Andrew Luck, QB - good pick, still early for QB though
5.12 LE- Golden Tate, WR- actually like his upside

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At this point in the draft, the only guys in this round I would really like to have on my team are Patterson or Tate (Luck if I wanted a QB this early). All of these other guys still have question marks. You can either hit a single this at bat or swing for the fence. Nothing is guaranteed even in this round.