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Chiefs OC: West and Ware will be a RBBC

Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:42 pm
Posted by LateArrivalforLSU
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:42 pm
Mother F

Guess I'll start Doug Martin in my PPR league at my flex position over West, considering this announcement.
Posted by ShoeBang
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:49 pm to
Guess that means I can't drop Ware, but I'll probably never play him either.
Posted by GynoSandberg
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:52 pm to
Championships shouldn't be won with waiver wire players anyway
Posted by LateArrivalforLSU
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:53 pm to
quote:

Championships shouldn't be won with waiver wire players anyway

Yeh, there haven't been any injuries this year to starting RB's.
Posted by MrPappagiorgio
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:54 pm to
dang

is the weather cold enough to start Jeremy Hill yet?
Posted by GynoSandberg
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 1:06 pm to

There's more of a chance that the person who has West/ware ended up with him via dumb luck. The draft should be the most important part of fantasy sports imo. The more star players that are on the field the better. Also he's been relevant for what 2 week? It's much more of an accomplishment to win a title with a team you drafted than by riding someone you picked up due to injury. OF course it's JMO and if you drafted west/ware as a handcuff or picked him up earlier in the season this doesn't apply.
Posted by ShoeBang
Member since May 2012
19358 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 1:09 pm to
I missed out on West on waivers after Jamaaaaaaaal went down. I've been riding McFadden ever since and I lucked into Ware last week, hoping West would lose his job, thus kind of replacing my Jamaaaaaaaal loss.
Posted by rondo
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 1:10 pm to
Thats just silly giraffe.

I had Charles and as a result spent all my WW money on West.
Posted by BilJ
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 1:12 pm to
I'd still expect west to have higher PPR value
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 1:21 pm to
Would it surprise you if I told you boom ran with that stance for 5 pages?
Posted by Gtothemoney
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 1:23 pm to
quote:

Championships shouldn't be won with waiver wire players anyway


Ok Boom.


Nvm. I see whatcha did.
This post was edited on 12/3/15 at 1:25 pm
Posted by motorbreath
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 1:34 pm to
Yes you should. That's the difference between 2 equally well drafted teams.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 1:36 pm to
quote:

There's more of a chance that the person who has West/ware ended up with him via dumb luck. The draft should be the most important part of fantasy sports imo. The more star players that are on the field the better. Also he's been relevant for what 2 week? It's much more of an accomplishment to win a title with a team you drafted than by riding someone you picked up due to injury. OF course it's JMO and if you drafted west/ware as a handcuff or picked him up earlier in the season this doesn't apply.


Agreed 100%.

What's the purpose of draft day? It's to DRAFT a championship team. So how is someone who has to add players to win a title on the same level as someone whose team he drafted on draft day wins the title? It's not. Drafing the championship squad on draft day is more impressive because you don't have any regular season games to make your decisions on.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 1:38 pm to
quote:

Yes you should. That's the difference between 2 equally well drafted teams.



what about a drafted team that adds no player

vs

a team that hits up the waiver for a couple late season plug n play starters


Purpose of the draft is to draft a title team if you can do that without having to add players to your lineup that's an impressive feat.


Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278389 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 1:45 pm to
do you not add players thru the year? that is pretty impressive given your trophy case
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59692 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 1:52 pm to
Yea I always add players and I almost always start them at some point. But it's more impressive to win with the players you've drafted.

Scenario A. Team barely gets into the playoffs, picks up an RB1s backup in Week 13(not a handcuff) and rides that guy to 20+ PPG.... championship.(At this point you already know the backup will kill it you've seen the offense all year)

Scenario B. Team kills the draft. Starts the same lineup all year outside of bye week fills ins. Wins the title starting all of his top 6-7 draft picks(No information on how the offense will look in the season, the players roles, backups, etc).

A is easily a better feat.

This post was edited on 12/3/15 at 1:53 pm
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 1:55 pm to
You also need to be able to adjust as the season goes on. In 1 league I have been the top team since week 1 (most points scored 1st 2 weeks & started off 7-0), and in the other I have always been top 3 (started 5-0). In both leagues I have turned over at least 60% of my roster via trades & WW.

To be successful, you really need to develop a mixture of both strategies. It would be foolish to sit on someone that is struggling and has shown no ability to correct that (i.e., Luck), or hope to ride someone that had a great start when he'd ride your bench most weeks (drafted both Olsen & ASJ, traded ASJ after week 2).
Posted by Gtothemoney
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Member since Sep 2012
17715 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 1:56 pm to
And the trophy still looks the same :bow
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59692 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 1:59 pm to
quote:

You also need to be able to adjust as the season goes on.


If you don't have to adjust because your team is good enough, that's better than having to adjust.

quote:

To be successful, you really need to develop a mixture of both strategies
You only need to adjust if the team you drafted isn't a championship winning team after draft day.

quote:

It would be foolish to sit on someone that is struggling and has shown no ability to correct that


You miss the point. The goal is always to win and you don't keep someone on your roster that isn't any good. But if you knew the guys would be good before anyone else did (IE on draft day) that's better than adding players once you already know what their role will be when the games matter.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59692 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 2:02 pm to
quote:

And the trophy still looks the same :bow


Once you've got as many as me they're pretty much all the same..Unless you can do something like hit on all of your first 7-8 draft picks and dominate. That's when you know you did a good job rather than picking up someone late in the season who was 3rd or 4th string when the season started.
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