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Any singers here? Singing question.
Posted on 7/23/14 at 1:29 pm
Posted on 7/23/14 at 1:29 pm
What are some tips that you could give to someone who is learning to sing?
I have been writing songs for years but am now trying to learn to sing so that I can record them and go out and preform then.
I'd say I'm about a 7 right now as far as a singer but some days I sound better than others.
The main problem I have is keeping my jaw and toungue loose, the longer the phrase is that I have to sing the more they want to tighten up at the end of it.
The last word in a phrase is really where the tightness is coming in, have gotten it out mostly aside from that.
Did any of you have trouble with this when you were learning to sing, what did you do to help keep your jaw and toungue loose?
I have been writing songs for years but am now trying to learn to sing so that I can record them and go out and preform then.
I'd say I'm about a 7 right now as far as a singer but some days I sound better than others.
The main problem I have is keeping my jaw and toungue loose, the longer the phrase is that I have to sing the more they want to tighten up at the end of it.
The last word in a phrase is really where the tightness is coming in, have gotten it out mostly aside from that.
Did any of you have trouble with this when you were learning to sing, what did you do to help keep your jaw and toungue loose?
Posted on 7/23/14 at 1:39 pm to CrimsonFever
quote:switch to rapping
What are some tips that you could give to someone who is learning to sing?
and get autotune
Posted on 7/23/14 at 1:48 pm to High C
I know you're being sarcastic but I can see how it would actually help. The more relaxed your body is the easier it is to sing, and meditaion certainly relaxes you.
Posted on 7/23/14 at 1:49 pm to CrimsonFever
I learned how to sing years after I learned how to play guitar. It was the hardest thing in the world for me to play guitar and sing at the same time, but with practice, it eventually clicked, and its not so hard now.
But you are talking about just singing? Practice makes perfect. Just keep practicing, and google voice exercises and what not.
But you are talking about just singing? Practice makes perfect. Just keep practicing, and google voice exercises and what not.
Posted on 7/23/14 at 1:57 pm to Funky Tide 8
Yeah it is harder to sing when playing an instrument no doubt, I have gotten to the point where I can do that, my main probelem is that my toungue wants to tighten up as I sing which in turn raises my larnxy, makes my jaw get tighter ect.
It is a lot better now than it previously had been though, and youtube videos are mainly what helped me learn to relax it. It's just like a tiny bit of tension in there now at certain places that I'm trying to get out.
It is a lot better now than it previously had been though, and youtube videos are mainly what helped me learn to relax it. It's just like a tiny bit of tension in there now at certain places that I'm trying to get out.
Posted on 7/23/14 at 2:05 pm to CrimsonFever
You use different muscles whiles singing that need to be "built up". After years of singing I have developed pretty strong voice muscles that comes in use when I am yelling back at the crowd.....ok the 4 people that are there and telling me I suck. Just keep singing and it will get better. May take a few years though.
This post was edited on 7/23/14 at 2:06 pm
Posted on 7/23/14 at 2:13 pm to CrimsonFever
Minimum 20 mins of warm-ups. Go through vowels, key changes, octaves, and loosening exercises.
Every time you feel yourself start your do something bad, stop and start that phrase over.
Sing first with musical accompaniment,then sing with out it.
One of the best things to do is record yourself singing but sing along to the music on your headphones, so when you listen to the recording you only hear your voice and can pinpoint the problem areas.
Don't rely on stupid bulllshit like autotune, learn to sing well then you can fool with those things.
Every time you feel yourself start your do something bad, stop and start that phrase over.
Sing first with musical accompaniment,then sing with out it.
One of the best things to do is record yourself singing but sing along to the music on your headphones, so when you listen to the recording you only hear your voice and can pinpoint the problem areas.
Don't rely on stupid bulllshit like autotune, learn to sing well then you can fool with those things.
Posted on 7/23/14 at 4:15 pm to Breesus
learn how to breathe by extending your stomach and breathing low. keep the stomach extended as you sing. every note will drop like gravity has a hold on it so learn to keep the energy in it for as long as the note lasts. think of the note before you actually sing it. everything should be relaxed except the pump--your stomach (some people try to keep their stomachs in as they use the breath, like pageant girls-that works, too). practice perfectly. I'm just learning choral singing (8 yrs) but got great instruction/tips. getting better. love it love it. warming up is very important: tongue exercises, twist at the waste, scales of course, neck/shoulder rotation. I do pushups sometimes to get started.
Posted on 7/23/14 at 4:25 pm to CrimsonFever
Quit thinking about it and just let it fly. Unless you're going for some opera-type shite. Hell, do it then, too..
Posted on 7/23/14 at 4:27 pm to SFVtiger
Some good tips thank you to those that have responded.
Posted on 7/23/14 at 4:31 pm to JuiceTerry
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Quit thinking about it and just let it fly. Unless you're going for some opera-type shite. Hell, do it then, too..
My toungue and jaw are naturally really tight, never realized it til I tried to really try to start learning how to sing.
If I just let it fly then my throat is gonna be very closed off due to my toungue being tense.
Hopefully as I get more and more used to singing with my thoat, jaw, and tounge relaxed then I can let it fly and it will be fine, but I'm not there yet. I have to consciously remind myself to keep them loose at this point.
This post was edited on 7/23/14 at 4:36 pm
Posted on 7/23/14 at 4:48 pm to CrimsonFever
Part of that tightness may be due to a lack of oxygen. Look up some simple breathing exercises. They can help you relax and make it easier to enunciate. Also, when warming up, start slow and don't try to over-extend too soon. I can sing Roy Orbison, Vince Gill and the Righteous Brothers but only after a few less taxing numbers.
Less tobacco, more alcohol sometimes helps too.
Less tobacco, more alcohol sometimes helps too.
Posted on 7/23/14 at 4:56 pm to OldTigahFot
Yeah I need to warm up more than I do, probably the main problem.
I can sing three octaves and when I first started trying to sing my jaw and toungue would mainly tense up on higher notes, now I've gotten where I can sing higher notes and phrases tension free but when I get to the low end of my range it's trying to tense up. Lately I've been trying to warm up to where it's loosened during my whole range before I try to sing any songs and that's helping a lot.
I can sing three octaves and when I first started trying to sing my jaw and toungue would mainly tense up on higher notes, now I've gotten where I can sing higher notes and phrases tension free but when I get to the low end of my range it's trying to tense up. Lately I've been trying to warm up to where it's loosened during my whole range before I try to sing any songs and that's helping a lot.
Posted on 7/23/14 at 5:41 pm to CrimsonFever
Just like any muscle group, you need to exercise and stretch your throat and mouth. What style of music are you working on
Posted on 7/23/14 at 5:53 pm to KajunGator
Good point.
It's mainly like dance music but with guitar and vocals over it, a lot of bass. Rock based song structues though, verse, chorus.
I started DJing when I was about 16 then got a guitar for my birthday, taught myself to play guitar by playing along to house and trance records. Pretty much how I got started doing it. I make my own beats for the songs now though and don't use any samples. Some of the songs have rock style drums in them, it just varies from song to song.
It's mainly like dance music but with guitar and vocals over it, a lot of bass. Rock based song structues though, verse, chorus.
I started DJing when I was about 16 then got a guitar for my birthday, taught myself to play guitar by playing along to house and trance records. Pretty much how I got started doing it. I make my own beats for the songs now though and don't use any samples. Some of the songs have rock style drums in them, it just varies from song to song.
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