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What do Europeans think about Muslim immigration?
Posted on 2/8/17 at 3:02 pm
Posted on 2/8/17 at 3:02 pm
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President Donald Trump’s executive order to ban citizens of seven Muslim-majority states from entering the US for 90 days, and temporarily freeze all refugee arrivals (including Syrians indefinitely), has been interpreted widely as an attempt to curtail the inward migration of Muslims, which Trump and his supporters argue pose a threat to national security.
Trump’s policy has generated a backlash among some of Europe’s leaders. Angela Merkel’s spokesman said the chancellor had ‘explained’ the UN Refugee Convention to the president in a phone call discussing the order, while London Mayor Sadiq Khan argued that the invitation to the president for a state visit to Britain in 2017 should be withdrawn until the ban is rescinded. Meanwhile, leaders of Europe’s populist right-wing parties, including Geert Wilders, Nigel Farage and Matteo Salvini, have heaped praise on Trump.
Amid these competing views, where do the public in European countries stand on the specific issue of Muslim immigration? There is evidence to suggest that both Trump and these radical right-wing parties reflect an underlying reservoir of public support.
Drawing on a unique, new Chatham House survey of more than 10,000 people from 10 European states, we can throw new light on what people think about migration from mainly Muslim countries. Our results are striking and sobering. They suggest that public opposition to any further migration from predominantly Muslim states is by no means confined to Trump’s electorate in the US but is fairly widespread.
In our survey, carried out before President Trump’s executive order was announced, respondents were given the following statement: ‘All further migration from mainly Muslim countries should be stopped’. They were then asked to what extent did they agree or disagree with this statement. Overall, across all 10 of the European countries an average of 55% agreed that all further migration from mainly Muslim countries should be stopped, 25% neither agreed nor disagreed and 20% disagreed.
Majorities in all but two of the ten states agreed, ranging from 71% in Poland, 65% in Austria, 53% in Germany and 51% in Italy to 47% in the United Kingdom and 41% in Spain. In no country did the percentage that disagreed surpass 32%.
So I guess those talking points about TRUMP! hurting America's image in the eyes of other nations, etc were just more BS that the media is spewing?
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Posted on 2/8/17 at 3:04 pm to WeeWee
Europe is being over run.
Thank Bush for Iraq and Obama for Syria/Libya
Unfortunately to a large extent the US caused all this with our foreign policy.
Thank Bush for Iraq and Obama for Syria/Libya
Unfortunately to a large extent the US caused all this with our foreign policy.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 3:06 pm to WeeWee
Just about all the international media loons are in lockstep with the MSM on their one world gubment wet-dream.
Many are probably being paid/rewarded on top of it to print the BS.
Many are probably being paid/rewarded on top of it to print the BS.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 3:06 pm to WeeWee
It really shows that there is an "elite class" in these countries and the people have no power when only 20% of people think Muslim migration is a good idea and the people in the government opened the flood gates and let them in.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 3:07 pm to WeeWee
Of course most rational people want to limit immigration from Muslim countries. They've all seen the terrorists attacks in Europe and other countries, and the huge rise in rapes and assaults from these barbarians.
The only people in favor of it are the globalist leaders, the leftist media, and their useful idiots on the left.
The only people in favor of it are the globalist leaders, the leftist media, and their useful idiots on the left.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 3:09 pm to ItTakesAThief
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Europe is being over run.
Thank Bush for Iraq and Obama for Syria/Libya
Unfortunately to a large extent the US caused all this with our foreign policy.
I guess you forgot about all the taking down of Europe's border fences, using the Italian navy to ferry refugees across from Libya, etc that Merkel and the EU promoted in recent years. US foreign policy might have initially light the match that started this fire, but it was Merkel, Hollande, Cameron and the rest of the EU leaders that poured gasoline on the fire and then threw away their fire extinguishers.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 3:11 pm to bhtigerfan
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Of course most rational people want to limit immigration from Muslim countries. They've all seen the terrorists attacks in Europe and other countries, and the huge rise in rapes and assaults from these barbarians.
Being rational = racist
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The only people in favor of it are the globalist leaders, the leftist media, and their useful idiots on the left.
Thank goodness for talk radio, youtube, social media, and internet journalism that keeps the rational ppl informed.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 3:14 pm to WeeWee
I agree. Europes leaders have enabled this mess. Merkel was Obama's puppet leader in the EU so don't think that Obama was not telling them to do accept these people in mass, so it really comes back to an extension of Obama's foreign policy and obamas world view.
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Hungary was the only country to push back and their present government has some connection to the old Soviet rule. So they are a hard line Christian country and rejected having minarettes etc built in their country.
Thing is that if ever pushed, Russia will go in and for large part extinguish this problem sooner or later from Europe because Russia will not accept a large Muslim population on their western borders.
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Hungary was the only country to push back and their present government has some connection to the old Soviet rule. So they are a hard line Christian country and rejected having minarettes etc built in their country.
Thing is that if ever pushed, Russia will go in and for large part extinguish this problem sooner or later from Europe because Russia will not accept a large Muslim population on their western borders.
This post was edited on 2/8/17 at 3:19 pm
Posted on 2/8/17 at 3:19 pm to ItTakesAThief
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I agree. Europes leaders have enabled this mess. Merkel was Obama's puppet leader in the EU so don't think that Obama was telling them to do this so it really comes back to an extension of Obama's foreign policy and obamas world view.
I actually think it was the other way around. Obama was Merkel's puppet. Kerry, Biden, Cameron, Hollande, and the rest of the ppl that Obama consulted with were in favor of striking Assad after he crossed the red line, but Merkel was opposed to it. Guess who Obama listened to? Merkel. Obama didn't make accepting syrian refugees a priority for the USA until Merkel called him out on it.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 3:23 pm to WeeWee
Feelings and emotions are the only driving force in arguing against limiting immigration from these countries.
I mean forget the terrorism aspect for a sec.
These people come from a VASTLY different part of the world that includes different cultures and values, some of which don't mix well with Western cultures and values. i.e. treatment of women and homosexuals. And we do not have the money or resources to allow them to enter in massive numbers with little to no vetting like we saw in Europe. To do so makes it near impossible to ensure that assimilation is taking place, and we watch what happened in Europe (drastic spikes in crime and sexual assault) happen here.
I've heard no argument against this other than "but those poor people."
I'm all for immigration, but it has to be done right, and there has to be order.
I mean forget the terrorism aspect for a sec.
These people come from a VASTLY different part of the world that includes different cultures and values, some of which don't mix well with Western cultures and values. i.e. treatment of women and homosexuals. And we do not have the money or resources to allow them to enter in massive numbers with little to no vetting like we saw in Europe. To do so makes it near impossible to ensure that assimilation is taking place, and we watch what happened in Europe (drastic spikes in crime and sexual assault) happen here.
I've heard no argument against this other than "but those poor people."
I'm all for immigration, but it has to be done right, and there has to be order.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 3:44 pm to ItTakesAThief
quote:
Europe is being over run.
Thank Bush for Iraq and Obama for Syria/Libya
Unfortunately to a large extent the US caused all this with our foreign policy.
I am more right wing than Rush but you are so correct about Bush and Obama. You also must include HRC for Syria/Libia. Bad decisions have bad consequences!
Posted on 2/8/17 at 3:45 pm to WeeWee
It's not surprising at all.
It may surprise people to realize that your average working-class European has far, far more in common with an average working-class American then each does with their urban, progressive elitist countrymen.
It may surprise people to realize that your average working-class European has far, far more in common with an average working-class American then each does with their urban, progressive elitist countrymen.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 3:46 pm to ItTakesAThief
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Europe is being over run. Thank Bush for Iraq and Obama for Syria/Libya
The migrant crisis is also partially a Soros project.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 3:48 pm to WeeWee
Yet if you flip on the news, you'd certainly think the world was solidly against this.
That's exactly what these news making protests and delegitimizing tactics are designed to do.
That's exactly what these news making protests and delegitimizing tactics are designed to do.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 3:57 pm to WeeWee
I agree with the majorities, but there's a misrepresentation in the very first sentence:
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an attempt to curtail the inward migration of Muslims, which Trump and his supporters argue pose a threat to national security.
It's Muslim extremists, terrorists and the like, not all Muslims.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 4:11 pm to ItTakesAThief
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Unfortunately to a large extent the US caused all this with our foreign policy.
What the US did had consequences no doubt, but we kept a lot of people alive from 1993-2001 by enforcing safe zones within Iraq.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 4:25 pm to WeeWee
I know quite a few Italians who absolutely hate the immigration situation. African immigrants are overrunning the place....except Sicily, I'm guessing the mob makes sure that they move out of there quickly.
But, the problem for Europe's leaders even prior to the Libyan and Syrian revolutions/civil wars was that Western Europe needed an influx of immigrants because native euros were not reproducing at replacement rate.... someone had to do the work and keep up the tax base in order for the older hedonistic Euro-trash to continue enjoying their "robust" generous benefits .
In Italy you have the mamonni.... 30-40 something guys who still live with Mama. heir replacement rate was something like under 1.
Actually, the US accelerated this crap for Europe by getting rid of Qaddafi who used to help them manage the flow into Italy. Now there is no buffer.
I do feel for the Western Europeans though....but they tend to be their own worst enemies
But, the problem for Europe's leaders even prior to the Libyan and Syrian revolutions/civil wars was that Western Europe needed an influx of immigrants because native euros were not reproducing at replacement rate.... someone had to do the work and keep up the tax base in order for the older hedonistic Euro-trash to continue enjoying their "robust" generous benefits .
In Italy you have the mamonni.... 30-40 something guys who still live with Mama. heir replacement rate was something like under 1.
Actually, the US accelerated this crap for Europe by getting rid of Qaddafi who used to help them manage the flow into Italy. Now there is no buffer.
I do feel for the Western Europeans though....but they tend to be their own worst enemies
Posted on 2/8/17 at 4:30 pm to fischd1
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I am more right wing than Rush but you are so correct about Bush and Obama. You also must include HRC for Syria/Libia. Bad decisions have bad consequences!
I'm surprised that the Italians still talk to us and the Brits after the Libya fiasco. Our actions have wrought real problems there. They liked Qadafi, he managed the immigration problem for Europe.
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