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Kayak Question: Ascend FS12T vs FS128T

Posted on 12/11/14 at 11:54 am
Posted by stoms
Coastal
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 12/11/14 at 11:54 am
[link=(FS12T)]https://www.basspro.com/Ascend-FS12T-SitOnTop-Angler-Kayak-Desert-Storm/product/13110707113412/[/link] $549 - 12 feet. 31" wide. 350 lbs capacity. 77 lbs

[link=(FS128T)]https://www.basspro.com/Ascend-FS128TSit-On-Top-Angler-Kayak-Desert-Storm/product/12102505321115/?cmCat=CROSSSELL_PRODUCT[/link] $749- 12'8 feet. 33" wide. 350 lbs capacity. 84 lbs.

These 2 kayaks have essentially the same hull design with the only difference being 8 inches in length and 2 inches in width on the 128T. The 12T's seat is stationary while the 128T's move 360 degrees. The 12T has 2 rod holders vs 4 on the 128T. The 128T has an anchor trolley while the 12T does not.

Some of those differences aren't a big deal. An anchor trolley and extra rod holders is an easy install. In the OB's opinion, is the 128T's few extra features worth the $200 extra dollars?
This post was edited on 12/11/14 at 11:55 am
Posted by Boats n Hose
NOLA
Member since Apr 2011
37248 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 11:57 am to
I got the FS12T. I don't like those rod holders as much as the ones I put on my crate anyway, and preferred my home built anchor trolley as well. My whole rig total, including paddle, anchor, everything was about as much as the 128T yak by itself. I'm happy with it.
Posted by DownSouthDave
Beau, Bro, Baw
Member since Jan 2013
7366 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 12:30 pm to
I had the fs128t. It's only 8" longer and 2" wider, but it looks like a lot more. It has more in hull storage which I liked. You can't use the front rod holders, not sure why they are there. Tons of storage on the deck, you can fit everything easily. It's super stable. But it's a lot heavier and cumbersome than the fs12t. I liked it a lot, but if I had to buy another one, I think I would go with the new fs12t. Mainly because of weight. It's only listed as 7 pounds, but it feels like a lot more.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
27499 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 12:45 pm to
I wonder how much tracking difference there is between the two.
Posted by Boats n Hose
NOLA
Member since Apr 2011
37248 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 12:54 pm to
The FS12T doesn't track that great. But I don't paddle very far, it's stable enough to stand and fish, and I like the storage. Hard to beat it for the price.

I also have boats I can use if I want to go further so I couldn't justify spending very much on a yak.
Posted by LSURoss
SWLAish
Member since Dec 2007
15282 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:00 pm to
I can 2nd that on the tracking. It doesn't really bother me all that much because this is the only kayak I have ever been in.
Posted by Boats n Hose
NOLA
Member since Apr 2011
37248 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:03 pm to
quote:

It doesn't really bother me all that much because this is the only kayak I have ever been in

I'm coming from a pirogue so just having a seat back is enough to make me happy
Posted by DownSouthDave
Beau, Bro, Baw
Member since Jan 2013
7366 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:07 pm to
Can't say for sure, i've never been in the FS12t. I thought the bigger one tracked pretty well. It's a beast though, if you have long paddles or heavy wind, it can be a burden.

It's all a give and take. I think you can pretty much look at them and know the pros and cons, it's just what you value the most. Can't go wrong with either for the price.
Posted by reds on reds on reds
Birmingham
Member since Sep 2013
4201 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:20 pm to
I like the layout on the FS128T much more
Posted by Boats n Hose
NOLA
Member since Apr 2011
37248 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:28 pm to
My problem with the 128T when I was looking at them (price aside) was launching it alone, it seems kind of heavy, and I didn't like the pivoting seat. Some people probably prefer it though.

To the OP, it's all preference. I overthought the whole layout thing beforehand, really if you have a stable enough platform to stand on/kneel and turn around on easily, it's not hard to keep everything you need handy. Just get creative with the rest of your setup (crate, cooler, storage, etc.)
Posted by McCringleberryy
Member since Dec 2012
4306 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 2:11 pm to
After ride the bull I vowed go never kayak fish unless I was in a hobie.
Posted by DownSouthDave
Beau, Bro, Baw
Member since Jan 2013
7366 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 2:12 pm to
quote:

After ride the bull I vowed go never kayak fish unless I was in a hobie.


This guy gets it!
Posted by Boats n Hose
NOLA
Member since Apr 2011
37248 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 2:14 pm to
Fishing that pass in a yak just sounds like a bad idea to me

I got mine for the marsh and bass ponds mostly, and some wintertime sacs.
Posted by McCringleberryy
Member since Dec 2012
4306 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 2:20 pm to
it was like taking one step forward and two steps back. FS12 is a good yak for the marsh though.
Posted by stoms
Coastal
Member since May 2012
1729 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 2:41 pm to
Question about launching solo.

I'm 30 and lift regularly (kinda skrong) and have no issues launching a 60lb kayak solo with no cart. My plan was bumping up to the high 70s-80s lb yak meant I'd need to buy a cart to launch solo. Does that sound reasonable?
This post was edited on 12/11/14 at 2:42 pm
Posted by Boats n Hose
NOLA
Member since Apr 2011
37248 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 2:52 pm to
I can launch the FS12T just fine solo. Cart would be easier at a busier launch where there's not a place to launch a yak away from everyone though. Sometimes have to put it in the water before loading in crate and stuff. I can only carry it alone sideways.
Posted by DownSouthDave
Beau, Bro, Baw
Member since Jan 2013
7366 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 3:00 pm to
I'd think it depends on where you typically launch. If you can park close by and its an easy spot to launch, then you might not need a cart. I don't think it's necessarily the added weight of the yak that makes it difficult, I think the bulkiness. I can carry my Pescador all day and have no problems, but the FS128t was a pita and I couldn't really carry it by myself.

I launch my PA14 solo a lot. But I have spots that I can access easily from the road. I don't drag it over oysters or anything.
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