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If this was the state of Bergdahl's mind BEFORE these past 5 years...
Posted on 6/11/14 at 1:42 pm
Posted on 6/11/14 at 1:42 pm
I can't imagine what kind of black hole it's in now
"In a file dated a few days later, repetitions of the phrase “velcro or zipper/velcro or zipper/velcro or zipper,” cover nearly two pages."
"“A wolf, mutt, hound, dog, I’ve been called these from my childhood,” he wrote in the first few pages. “But what good am I, my existence is that of exile. To live on the fringes of this world as a guard .?.?.”"
"On June 9, two weeks before he walked away, Bergdahl sent an e-mail to a friend.
“l1nes n0 t g00 d h3rE. tell u when 1 ha ve a si coure 1ine about pl/-\ns,” read the partially coded message, one of Bergdahl’s many references to unspecified plans and dreams of walking away — to China, into the mountains, or, as he says at one point, into “the artist’s painted world, hiding from the fields of blood and screams, hidden from the monster within himself.”
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"According to Coast Guard records, Bergdahl left the service with an “uncharacterized discharge” after 26 days of basic training in early 2006. The term applies to people discharged before completing 180 days of service. "
"In a file dated a few days later, repetitions of the phrase “velcro or zipper/velcro or zipper/velcro or zipper,” cover nearly two pages."
"“A wolf, mutt, hound, dog, I’ve been called these from my childhood,” he wrote in the first few pages. “But what good am I, my existence is that of exile. To live on the fringes of this world as a guard .?.?.”"
"On June 9, two weeks before he walked away, Bergdahl sent an e-mail to a friend.
“l1nes n0 t g00 d h3rE. tell u when 1 ha ve a si coure 1ine about pl/-\ns,” read the partially coded message, one of Bergdahl’s many references to unspecified plans and dreams of walking away — to China, into the mountains, or, as he says at one point, into “the artist’s painted world, hiding from the fields of blood and screams, hidden from the monster within himself.”
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"According to Coast Guard records, Bergdahl left the service with an “uncharacterized discharge” after 26 days of basic training in early 2006. The term applies to people discharged before completing 180 days of service. "
This post was edited on 6/11/14 at 1:48 pm
Posted on 6/11/14 at 1:43 pm to NHTIGER
No shite! Glad somebody posted this. If that stuff is to be believed, he seems, as I said in another thread, nuttier than squirrel shite. No offense to any mentally ill out there.
Posted on 6/11/14 at 1:48 pm to baybeefeetz
His dad appears crazy as well and really appeared to have overachieved with marrying his wife. I am not talking about the foreign language talk either. I am talking about the entirety of his actions. I would have been glad my son would have been released but would have been far too embarrassed knowing the entire story to show up at the White House for a giant press conference.
Posted on 6/11/14 at 1:48 pm to NHTIGER
Wow. This guy should have never been allowed to serve. He's seriously unstable and likely to have a major mental illness.
Posted on 6/11/14 at 1:52 pm to NHTIGER
From that same WP article:
"Several days after he vanished, a box containing his blue spiral-bound journal, his Apple laptop, a copy of the novel “Atlas Shrugged,” military records and other items arrived at the home of his close friend Kim Harrison, whom Bergdahl designated in his Army paperwork as the person who should receive his remains.
This is somewhat surprising, to say the least, if his relationship with his parents was good.
"Several days after he vanished, a box containing his blue spiral-bound journal, his Apple laptop, a copy of the novel “Atlas Shrugged,” military records and other items arrived at the home of his close friend Kim Harrison, whom Bergdahl designated in his Army paperwork as the person who should receive his remains.
This is somewhat surprising, to say the least, if his relationship with his parents was good.
Posted on 6/11/14 at 1:55 pm to Paluka
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Wow. This guy should have never been allowed to serve. He's seriously unstable and likely to have a major mental illness.
You mean we don't have to lynch him now?
Posted on 6/11/14 at 1:57 pm to NHTIGER
still doesn't excuse him of being a traitor, IMO
as a matter of fact, this line..."tell u when 1 ha ve a si coure 1ine about pl/-\n" tells me he knew exactly what he was doing
as a matter of fact, this line..."tell u when 1 ha ve a si coure 1ine about pl/-\n" tells me he knew exactly what he was doing
This post was edited on 6/11/14 at 1:59 pm
Posted on 6/11/14 at 2:04 pm to NHTIGER
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This is somewhat surprising, to say the least, if his relationship with his parents was good.
It's hush-hush
Posted on 6/11/14 at 2:06 pm to Layabout
quote:Want to hold another Rose Garden cuddle-fest for the guy? Or is one sufficient?
You mean we don't have to lynch him now?
Posted on 6/11/14 at 2:07 pm to Choctaw
He was trying to hint that he was going to fake being crazy "again," but nobody walks into the arms of the Taliban to fake being crazy to get out of the military, IMO. Dude seems to have been losing his grip.
Posted on 6/11/14 at 2:21 pm to baybeefeetz
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He was trying to hint that he was going to fake being crazy "again,"
i read it as him setting his "plan" to desert his post
This post was edited on 6/11/14 at 2:23 pm
Posted on 6/11/14 at 2:33 pm to Choctaw
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quote:
He was trying to hint that he was going to fake being crazy "again,"
i read it as him setting his "plan" to desert his post
Those two things are not necessarily mutually exclusive.
It's pretty clear by all accounts the guy didn't want to be there.
He could have had a plan to wander away and remain relatively close by, behave in an erratic manner, while expecting to be found pretty quickly by his own guys, returned to his unit, and being sent home and discharged. If he really did ask what would happen if he left with his weapon and night-vision goggles a short time before disappearing (as frequently reported), that would be a tipoff to his unit that he was leaving and "come get me ASAP, before someone else does".
Obviously just speculation.
But that would be better for him if he went with that, i.e., not really deserting, just being stupid to get sent home.
Posted on 6/11/14 at 2:48 pm to Choctaw
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still doesn't excuse him of being a traitor, IMO
certainly does not excuse him for going AWOL / desertion.
He must be held accountable.
Good people died looking for his sorry, worthless arse.
Posted on 6/11/14 at 3:42 pm to navy
quote:He must be held appropriately accountable. If the issue was insanity/mental instability/PTSD/etc., perhaps accountability is shared with medical services. But a through accounting is in order, and should have been exacted before the POTUS's advisors suggested a Rose Garden "welcome home" ceremony for the guy.
He must be held accountable.
Posted on 6/11/14 at 3:47 pm to baybeefeetz
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He was trying to hint that he was going to fake being crazy "again," but nobody walks into the arms of the Taliban to fake being crazy to get out of the military, IMO. Dude seems to have been losing his grip.
It's a debate as old as "Hamlet": is the act of faking mental instability an act of actual mental instability itself?
Posted on 6/11/14 at 3:50 pm to navy
On some level of consciousness, Bergdahl believes that he's a fictional character of his own design, inserted within the pages of an Ayn Rand novel. That's a little disturbing. But he's also very smart, yet having very little common sense.
This post was edited on 6/11/14 at 4:15 pm
Posted on 6/11/14 at 4:54 pm to Layabout
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You mean we don't have to lynch him now?
I think you should take his place dumbass.
Posted on 6/11/14 at 4:59 pm to Layabout
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You mean we don't have to lynch him now?
I love the left-leaning posters who like to rail on how awful the board is, when there's any number of them who do nothing but lob driveby utter bullshite quips like this into otherwise COMPLETELY NON-PARTISAN interesting discussions.
Posted on 6/11/14 at 5:00 pm to NHTIGER
I'm starting to feel bad for the guy. He seems incredibly off balance, and from this information has been for a long time.
Really do hope he turns out to be just a mentally unstable guy that made a stupid decision and gets the treatment he needs.
Really do hope he turns out to be just a mentally unstable guy that made a stupid decision and gets the treatment he needs.
Posted on 6/11/14 at 5:15 pm to NC_Tigah
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But a through accounting is in order, and should have been exacted before the POTUS's advisors suggested a Rose Garden "welcome home" ceremony for the guy.
That would have ruined the photo op. This administration is all about public image and sound byte self-promotion.
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