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Would you do 7/1 ARM or a 30-year fixed mortgage for a starter home?

Posted on 2/12/14 at 1:51 pm
Posted by saintforlife1
Member since Jul 2012
1321 posts
Posted on 2/12/14 at 1:51 pm
If you are buying your first home and don't plan on living there beyond 5-7 years, would you go with 7/1 ARM or a 30 year fixed loan?

I am thinking if we don't plan to live there long term, why pay the extra interest (~3.4% vs ~4.2%)? At any time we still have the option to refinance to a 30-year fixed, so under extenuating circumstances, we just switch. What is the MB's take on this?
Posted by hawkeye007
Member since Feb 2010
5847 posts
Posted on 2/12/14 at 2:07 pm to
do the math on how much you are saving a month. if the risk is worth it to you then take the 7/1 arm. just know that in rate will be higher when you have to refinance and you will have to repay closing cost when you refinance.
Posted by ItNeverRains
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 2/12/14 at 2:17 pm to
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do the math on how much you are saving a month. if the risk is worth it to you then take the 7/1 arm. just know that in rate will be higher If you have to refinance and you will have to repay closing cost If you refinance.


I agree. Just change when to if
Posted by Oenophile Brah
The Edge of Sanity
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 2/12/14 at 2:19 pm to
I think it works for certain situations. One problem is your options are limited.
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
27818 posts
Posted on 2/12/14 at 2:26 pm to
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just know that in rate will be higher


You don't know this.
Posted by hawkeye007
Member since Feb 2010
5847 posts
Posted on 2/12/14 at 2:41 pm to
after 10yrs as a mortgage banker i am 99.9% sure the rates will be hiher in 5-7 yrs then they are now. the only place to go from all time lows is up!
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
27818 posts
Posted on 2/12/14 at 3:03 pm to
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the only place to go from all time lows is up!


quote:

after 10yrs


Let me ask you, what were they saying when you first joined the industry?
Posted by hawkeye007
Member since Feb 2010
5847 posts
Posted on 2/12/14 at 3:14 pm to
i joined in the heyday of subprime when i didnt know shite and sold loand of flash cards(true story). i am not saying % rates will be 8% in 5-7 years but i do see them in the 5.5-6% range. our crappy economy will keep them from sky rocketing
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 2/12/14 at 4:31 pm to
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Let me ask you, what were they saying when you first joined the industry?


Interesting chart, I got a loan in 1997 when rates had dropped to around 6.5%, while mortgage shopping every broker told me I needed to lock in soon because rates would never be that low again in my lifetime!
Posted by Will Cover
St. Louis, MO
Member since Mar 2007
38531 posts
Posted on 2/12/14 at 4:34 pm to
quote:

Would you do 7/1 ARM or a 30-year fixed mortgage for a starter home?


Rates are at historic lows. Only one way to go from here.

I locked in at 2.875 % on a 15 year loan.

Do what's best for you.
Posted by LSUtigerME
Walker, LA
Member since Oct 2012
3792 posts
Posted on 2/12/14 at 4:51 pm to
I regret not doing an ARM. It would have worked great for me. Similar to you, I'm not planning to be here long term.

You should also review the loan terms. Most of the time there's a max yearly increase, and a maximum overall increase. At 3.4%, it should not creep up much over 5-6%. Take advantage of the lower interest rates for the first few years, and not pay much different than a refi at the point it starts climbing.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73396 posts
Posted on 2/12/14 at 5:27 pm to
7/1 arm

You will never stay in a 30yr fix longer than 5-7yrs unless the home youvare buying is 100k or under
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 2/12/14 at 6:07 pm to
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I locked in at 2.875 % on a 15 year loan.

that is just truly amazing.

BTW, when I bought our first house, we got 6% and everyone was talking about how amazing 6% was and how it couldn't get any better, and when our 5/1 ARM expired, our rate dropped. We ended up selling around that time so we didn't refinanance buts its something.

I do think rates are going to go up though.
Posted by LSUAlum2001
Stavro Mueller Beta
Member since Aug 2003
47127 posts
Posted on 2/12/14 at 7:45 pm to
You can't predict the future.

ARMs are for retards.
Posted by LSUGUMBO
Shreveport, LA
Member since Sep 2005
8499 posts
Posted on 2/12/14 at 8:53 pm to
I refi'd to a 7/1 ARM in 2012. I'm locked in at 2.875% until 2019, and it can only adjust 2% per year, and 5% max over the life of the loan, so the most I'll ever pay is 7.875%. We plan on moving in the next 3-4 years, so we shouldn't have to worry about the rate adjusting.

If this is a starter home, you more than likely won't be there for 7 years- I'd go for it, and take the opportunity to build some extra equity for your next home.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73396 posts
Posted on 2/12/14 at 9:14 pm to
Posted by Kreg Jennings
Parts Unknown
Member since Aug 2007
3291 posts
Posted on 2/12/14 at 10:17 pm to
quote:

ARM

quote:

starter home


These words should never be used together.
Posted by ZereauxSum
Lot 23E
Member since Nov 2008
10176 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 7:17 am to
I believe people have an irrational fear of ARMs because so many people got into them without understanding their max exposure to rate increases.

I'm about 5 weeks away from closing on a new construction and I'm getting a 5/5 ARM at 3.5%. My situation is a little different though because this is literally the only mortgage I can get (short sale less than two years ago).

It has a max adjustment of 2% and a lifetime cap at 6.9%. So the worst case scenario is I pay 3.5 for the first five years, 5.5 for the next and 6.9 for the rest of the life of the loan. I can live with that, but most likely I will refi into a 15 year when my wife goes back to work within the next few years.

If you understand the very worst that can happen (you can't refi/sell for some reason and the rate goes as high as it can possibly go) and you're OK with this, I say definitely go for it.
This post was edited on 2/13/14 at 8:23 am
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
27818 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 8:16 am to
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ARMs are for retards.


Mine adjusts monthly. I'm paying 1.75%.
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