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Fantasy baseball scoring
Posted on 1/6/14 at 5:08 pm
Posted on 1/6/14 at 5:08 pm
New at fantasy baseball. What are the standard scoring formats many of you use for roto or head to head? I tried looking on espn but couldn't find the actual scoring on there.
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Posted on 1/6/14 at 5:48 pm to Rabbs and QStick
In my league we play Runs, HR, SB, AVG, RBIs/ Strikeouts, Saves, Wins, WHIP, ERA.
Posted on 1/6/14 at 5:56 pm to tzimme4
How much do you get for wins and losses? I've seen between 3 and 7 for wins and -5 to -3 for losses. The pitcher scoring was the one that I really didn't know about.
Posted on 1/6/14 at 6:15 pm to Rabbs and QStick
We play you can get 5 wins for hitting and 5 wins for pitching. So you can go 10-0-0, 8-2-0, 5-4-1, 2-8-0 or 0-10-0. Just depends how you do that week. Using daily pitching streamers is good for head to head.
This post was edited on 1/6/14 at 6:16 pm
Posted on 1/7/14 at 8:33 am to Rabbs and QStick
There are 3 common types of scoring.
Points
Categories
Roto
Points is very similar to football but isn't as popular in the fantasy baseball world.
Categories is usually head to head based where each matchup will start out 0-0-10. The basic 10 categories are Runs/HRs/RBIs/SB/AVG followed by Ks/Ws/Saves/ERA/WHIP. You want to win as many categories each week as possible.
Roto is the granddaddy of all of fantasy sports. You'll have 10 categories, similar to the ones mentioned previously and you will get points based off your ranking in each category. For example in a 10 team league if you have the most runs, you will get 10 points, 2nd most runs will get 9 points, and so on. Your goal is to have the most points overall.
Certain players carry different values across each type of league format as well. For example, JP Arencibia carries almost no value in a standard 10-team head to head 1 catcher league because of his inability to do anything but hit homeruns. But he does carry tremendous value in a roto 2 catcher league because of his ability to put 20-25+ balls in the stands over the span of the entire season from the C position.
Points
Categories
Roto
Points is very similar to football but isn't as popular in the fantasy baseball world.
Categories is usually head to head based where each matchup will start out 0-0-10. The basic 10 categories are Runs/HRs/RBIs/SB/AVG followed by Ks/Ws/Saves/ERA/WHIP. You want to win as many categories each week as possible.
Roto is the granddaddy of all of fantasy sports. You'll have 10 categories, similar to the ones mentioned previously and you will get points based off your ranking in each category. For example in a 10 team league if you have the most runs, you will get 10 points, 2nd most runs will get 9 points, and so on. Your goal is to have the most points overall.
Certain players carry different values across each type of league format as well. For example, JP Arencibia carries almost no value in a standard 10-team head to head 1 catcher league because of his inability to do anything but hit homeruns. But he does carry tremendous value in a roto 2 catcher league because of his ability to put 20-25+ balls in the stands over the span of the entire season from the C position.
This post was edited on 1/7/14 at 8:38 am
Posted on 1/7/14 at 8:34 am to tzimme4
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Using daily pitching streamers is good for head to head.
This is definitely true assuming you have no limitations. One of my leagues has a 4-add/week limit so streaming isn't as effective.
Posted on 1/8/14 at 8:21 pm to Brian Wilson
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Points is very similar to football but isn't as popular in the fantasy baseball world.
This makes no sense to me. I feel like points gives a much better representation of a players actual value.
I had a lot of fun with a points league last season. I believe it was:
1 point for total bases (basically 1 point for single, 2 for a double, 3 for a triple, 4 for a HR)
1 point for an RBI, R, BB or SB
-1 point for strikeout or CS
1 point per IP
1 point per SO
5 points for a W (-5 points for a L)
3 points for a SV (-3 for a BS)
3 points for a QS
-1 point for a BB or ER
That gave Miggy 619 points. Over 24 weeks that's 26 a week. Similar to a top fantasy RB
Trout 543 total points. 22.6 a week
Chris Davis had an insane season but took a big hit from his 199 strikeouts. 530 total points. 22 a week.
Kershaw had 484 total points.
Scherzer had 494.
Closers are kind of the kickers of the league. Not as important but could win or lose you some games. Kimbrel had a fantastic season with 279 points (11.6 a week). While a more average closer Fernando Rodney, only managed 179 points (7.5 a week).
Posted on 1/8/14 at 8:30 pm to 1ranter1
Roto is real fantasy baseball
Posted on 1/8/14 at 9:07 pm to dallastiger55
categories or gtfo
Posted on 1/8/14 at 9:15 pm to Brian Wilson
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This is definitely true assuming you have no limitations
Unfornately, our league has a 120 inning limit each week which still doesn't help much. I think I put an end to all the streamers in my league loading up Kershaw, Hamels, Price, Scherzer, Sale, Strausberg, & Jose Fernandez. Now all I need to do is win Saves each week and I'll go 5-0 usually. But my only hitters going into the draft right now are Bautista and Hosmer
This post was edited on 1/8/14 at 9:18 pm
Posted on 1/9/14 at 8:47 am to 1ranter1
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This makes no sense to me. I feel like points gives a much better representation of a players actual value.
I think points leagues are more for the casual fans/players. Especially the ones who started playing fantasy football first. It makes that transition a little easier. It's starting to gain some popularity but Roto and H2H categories will always fight for #1
Roto baseball scoring is what created fantasy sports. I think it represents true fantasy baseball but at the same time it's not for everybody. You can pretty much be done by July if you fall out of enough categories. And if you're in one with any roster add/drop/trade limitations it can be very underwhelming and not exciting.
Posted on 1/9/14 at 8:53 am to tzimme4
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our league has a 120 inning limit each week which still doesn't help much
10-team or 12-team? I could see where it allows some wiggle room in a 10-team but a 120ip limit per week should keep 12-team leagues in check. My 12-team has ip min and max that we have to stay within each week so sometimes you have to stream to get above the min. The commish put the cap so that it doesn't get out of hand. I know guys who will only roster closers and rotate pitchers everyday without the max.
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I think I put an end to all the streamers in my league loading up Kershaw, Hamels, Price, Scherzer, Sale, Strausberg, & Jose Fernandez
That's a pretty stacked SP class. How many keepers? If anything you probably aided it since all those guys are off the radar.
Posted on 1/9/14 at 9:12 am to Brian Wilson
It's a 12 team league, but the guys who stream don't keep any SPs at all. Strictly build their hitters. But I think we're moving to a 14 team this upcoming season. The two new teams get to draft from the non-keeper market before the draft.
It's a 8 player keeper league so I have 7 SPs and 1 hitter. There's still a bunch of good hitters (55-120 ranked) in the free agency/draft. I'm going to try to win all 5 pitching categories each week and try and take 2-3 hitting categories like AVG and Runs.
It's a 8 player keeper league so I have 7 SPs and 1 hitter. There's still a bunch of good hitters (55-120 ranked) in the free agency/draft. I'm going to try to win all 5 pitching categories each week and try and take 2-3 hitting categories like AVG and Runs.
This post was edited on 1/9/14 at 9:14 am
Posted on 1/9/14 at 12:41 pm to tzimme4
Would y'all suggest having a min innings and max innings for category scoring bc I could see a lot people trying to take advantage of these categories without min and max and ruin integrity of league
Posted on 1/9/14 at 1:25 pm to Rabbs and QStick
It's worked well for us. If there isn't a rule in place to prevent anything someone will eventually exploit it. You just have to tinker around with the actual # of innings.
Without much research 140IP Max like the guy said above seems to be a fair # for a 12-team league. You just have to consider how many people actually stream to make the number effective.
Whatever you do, don't eliminate streaming entirely. It's a proven strategy that some people tend to utilize. You're really sacrificing ERA/WHIP to get as many Ks and Ws as possible. Some weeks ERA/WHIP will be in your favor and other weeks it will not. Most people view it as an unfair advantage and don't like it but I think it's legit. It's not status quo and it makes people uncomfortable to go up against it.
Limiting roster adds per matchup might be more effective.
Without much research 140IP Max like the guy said above seems to be a fair # for a 12-team league. You just have to consider how many people actually stream to make the number effective.
Whatever you do, don't eliminate streaming entirely. It's a proven strategy that some people tend to utilize. You're really sacrificing ERA/WHIP to get as many Ks and Ws as possible. Some weeks ERA/WHIP will be in your favor and other weeks it will not. Most people view it as an unfair advantage and don't like it but I think it's legit. It's not status quo and it makes people uncomfortable to go up against it.
Limiting roster adds per matchup might be more effective.
Posted on 1/9/14 at 1:53 pm to tzimme4
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It's a 8 player keeper league so I have 7 SPs and 1 hitter. There's still a bunch of good hitters (55-120 ranked) in the free agency/draft. I'm going to try to win all 5 pitching categories each week and try and take 2-3 hitting categories like AVG and Runs.
if only it were this easy :/
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