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UT-A&M rivalry came to an end once before

Posted on 11/20/11 at 11:05 pm
Posted by daboman of Aggieland
Columbia, MO
Member since Aug 2011
1330 posts
Posted on 11/20/11 at 11:05 pm
UT-A&M rivalry came to an end once before
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Varsity fans also grumbled that Moran taught "slugging," the era's description of dirty football, and chanted, "To hell, to hell, with Charley Moran and all his dirty crew. If you don't like the words to this song, to hell, to hell with you."

Holm countered, "He taught rough football but I never knew it to be dirty. He taught winning football."

When the teams met Nov. 13, 1911, at West End Park, Texas lost lineman Marlon Harold to a broken leg on the first play. But in the second period, A&M halfback A.R. Bateman fumbled at the College 15-yard line and Texas halfback Arnold Kirkpatrick returned it for a touchdown.

Earth-shaking victory

Kirkpatrick's five-point TD, plus the extra point, accounted for the scoring in a 6-0 Texas win that was sufficiently shocking, the Chronicle wrote, to "shake every office building in Houston."

Afterward, some of the 10,000 fans in attendance were said to have ripped their way through a picket fence to commence fisticuffs. Kern Tips described it in his book Football Texas Style as "a dilly of a donnybrook," and Texas football historian Lou Maysel wrote, "It was unsafe in downtown Houston for anyone wearing Texas colors as bands of A&M students roamed the streets."

The next day, W.T. Mather, chairman of the UT athletic council, wrote his A&M counterpart, "I beg to inform you that the athletic council of the University of Texas has decided not to enter any athletic relations with the Agricultural and Mechanical College of Texas for the year 1912."

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Texas team manager Stephen F. Pinckney told the Austin American-Statesman that A&M "has earned a reputation for rotten athletics. … They admit trying to injure some of our men."

"I never played in so dirty a game in my life," said Texas lineman Marshall Ramsdell. "… (A&M players) use brute force and break legs and arms and heads by slugging if necessary."

The Bryan Eagle responded with the headline "Varsity Curses Sent Home to Roost/Slanderous Charges of Texas University Athletic Authorities Refuted by Positive and Incontestable Evidence."

"The football team, the student body, the athletic council, the faculty and the alumni association have found nothing wrong in Mr. Moran's systems or tactics," wrote J.B. Bagley, A&M athletic council president.

And so the teams parted. Texas lost just two games over the next three years and was unbeaten in 1914. A&M in 1912, with what was considered Moran's best team, outscored opponents 366-25, but the lost revenue from the Texas game, Holm wrote, "all but sent our athletic department into bankruptcy."

Quietly, former A&M players Hal Moseley and Joe Utay began talks with Texas, which in 1913 hired Theo Bellmont from his job as secretary of the Houston YMCA to be athletic director, to revive the series.

On Nov. 30, 1914, the schools agreed to play again in 1915. A few days later, Moran resigned, citing "immediate pressure of other business" in his home state of Kentucky.

Parting wish

He received a full dress parade from the Corps and was made an honorary member of the Class of 1913. As A&M prepared to play Texas in 1915, he wrote each player a letter that concluded, "If you still love me and think anything of me, then beat Texas."

They complied, winning 13-0 in the first A&M-Texas game at College Station, and the A&M athletic department recorded a net profit of $3,429.07 - roughly the amount that Texas, with its $152 million athletic budget spends every 15 minutes these days.
Posted by Big Kat
Member since Feb 2009
5910 posts
Posted on 11/20/11 at 11:24 pm to
I'll be ready Thursday. I'll be game day whiskey drunk and ready for a good dilly of a donnybrook
Posted by Smoke Ring
Scenic Highway Crackhouse
Member since Dec 2010
4234 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 2:13 am to
Tickets are in the drawer as I type this.

One last time, with feeling.
Posted by LSU1860
West Louisiana
Member since Mar 2006
1271 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 6:25 am to
KICK that texas arse!

Posted by Purplehaze
spring, tx
Member since Dec 2003
1782 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 7:09 am to
I look forward to hearing the SEC chant
Posted by Uncle Stu
#AlbinoLivesMatter
Member since Aug 2004
33658 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 8:29 am to
I'll be there - covered in purple and gold, but cheering for the Aggies all the way
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 9:20 am to
I'll be looking for ya on the tube!!! Couldn't score tickets to the game (a fact that tears me up inside), but I'll be there for the Corps march-in. Saw some horns off for me, y'all!!!

BEAT THE frick OUTTA t.u.!
Posted by Smoke Ring
Scenic Highway Crackhouse
Member since Dec 2010
4234 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 11:27 am to
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I'll be there - covered in purple and gold, but cheering for the Aggies all the way


If I see any Tiger fans they're getting free Beer or Turkey & Dressing at my tailgate, and my wife makes some mean arse cornbread dressing with lots of sage.

I guarantee that this is going to be one hell of a game.

Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 12:12 pm to
i may not live long enough to see it, but y'alls game will continue again some time in the future. cooler heads will prevail. ut is acting like a bunch of 4 yr olds but many of them are old and when the leaders of the "ostrasize (sp) the aggies" movement retires or dies the new leaders will realize its a jewell of a game (and a profitable one at that). same as uga/ga tech; florida/fsu; usce vs clemson, etc.
Posted by MaroonDontRun
Richmond, Texas
Member since Feb 2004
168 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 1:33 pm to
If we get to the point where it would be an automatic victory over texas every year then you will never see that game scheduled again.
Posted by twk
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jul 2011
2115 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 3:26 pm to
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i may not live long enough to see it, but y'alls game will continue again some time in the future. cooler heads will prevail. ut is acting like a bunch of 4 yr olds but many of them are old and when the leaders of the "ostrasize (sp) the aggies" movement retires or dies the new leaders will realize its a jewell of a game (and a profitable one at that). same as uga/ga tech; florida/fsu; usce vs clemson, etc.
If A&M ever runs off a period of sustained success while Texas falls into a prolonged period of mediocrity, the powers that be in Austin will conclude that the fastest way to turn the tables would be to resume head-to-head competition. If history is any guide, it will happen at some point.
Posted by Big Kat
Member since Feb 2009
5910 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 5:23 pm to
I'll also be toting extra brews to give to any SEC brothers I see


BTHO tu



Stu, have you been to Kyle before? The sustained noise for this game will be impressive
Posted by Daigeaux
Mountains of East Tennessee
Member since Jul 2005
5961 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 7:35 pm to
will there be a LOUD SEC chant throughout the game when you're burying some sawed off horns?
Posted by Big Kat
Member since Feb 2009
5910 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 8:00 pm to
I would expect that once the game is out of hand it will rain down. So sometime in the mid 4th Q with the Ags up 27-10 you're TV speakers will burst with S-E-C chants.

If I'm a casual fan Im tuning in to this game. It's a 100 year heated war come to a head. Lots of hate. Expect a couple licks laid.

I'm calling 4 QB sacks by the Ags on the night. 2 by Damontre Moore, 1 by Sean Porter, and 1 off a corner blitz
Posted by Uncle Stu
#AlbinoLivesMatter
Member since Aug 2004
33658 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 8:24 pm to
yeah a few times, I try and go to one a year
Posted by LSU9102
West of the Mississippi
Member since Mar 2007
2474 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 9:09 pm to
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If I see any Tiger fans they're getting free Beer or Turkey & Dressing at my tailgate, and my wife makes some mean arse cornbread dressing with lots of sage.


I'll be outside Reed Arena tailgating. Are you near?

I think it's a money maker with A&M playing tu.
Why can't Deloss pay a team to get it off it's schedule? Has he said anything?
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