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Phil Steele's pick

Posted on 10/8/09 at 11:03 am
Posted by noladan
new orleans
Member since Nov 2003
3802 posts
Posted on 10/8/09 at 11:03 am
If anyone cares.

My Forecast:
The winner of this game has won the last 3 national titles. UF has lost to an SEC West team every year since 1999, but Meyer’s teams are 27-3 with more than a week to prepare. Last year Miles suffered his worst loss in 4 years at LSU, 51-21 (LSU only trailed 20-14 mid-3Q). LSU is off a last minute 20-13 win over Georgia in which they had a 19-11 FD edge and a 368-274 yard edge, but the game winning touchdown drive was set up by a questionable celebration penalty. Florida luckily had a bye to get rested and hopefully Tebow will be healthy (concussion vs Kentucky). The dog has 3 outright upsets in this series since 2002. This is the toughest defense by far that LSU QB Jefferson has faced (averaging 184 yards per game, 7-2 ratio). LSU has won 32 consecutive Saturday night games at home, but Florida has edges on offense, defense and special teams.


PHIL’S FORECAST : florida 30 lsu 16

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This post was edited on 10/8/09 at 11:19 am
Posted by gatorrocks
Lake Mary, FL
Member since Oct 2007
13969 posts
Posted on 10/8/09 at 11:15 am to
I don't get why everyone is picking Mississippi. They obviously see beyond the horrible play so far this year by them.
Posted by LSUzealot
Napoleon and Magazine
Member since Sep 2003
57656 posts
Posted on 10/8/09 at 11:16 am to
Florida could easily cover...i don't think anyone saw us coming within 14 points of florida before the georgia game and now LSU is the trendy upset pick
Posted by tigerfan in bamaland
Back Home now
Member since Sep 2006
61080 posts
Posted on 10/8/09 at 11:17 am to
quote:

Florida 30 LSU 16
Posted by The312
I Live in The Three One Two
Member since Aug 2008
6967 posts
Posted on 10/8/09 at 11:18 am to
He also said that UGA would beat us 31-20. So he was about 18 points off in that prediction.
Posted by Johnny Utah9
Santa Barbara
Member since Jun 2009
2096 posts
Posted on 10/8/09 at 11:20 am to
why is uga over tenn and upset
Posted by noladan
new orleans
Member since Nov 2003
3802 posts
Posted on 10/8/09 at 11:24 am to
quote:

why is uga over tenn and upset

I think I saw that UT was actually a slight favorite. It doesn't seem right, so if I were gambling I'd stay away from that one
Posted by LSUisGATORBAIT
B'ham
Member since Sep 2007
196 posts
Posted on 10/8/09 at 11:28 am to
I dont get the Ole Miss over Bama thing at all either. I put my $ on Bama early thinking they'd become more than a 6.5 pt favorite. I FADE YOU, PUBLIC
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59084 posts
Posted on 10/8/09 at 11:31 am to
quote:

but the game winning touchdown drive was set up by a 40 yd kick return and 5 yds offsides penalty on the kickoff
Posted by no1g8r
Member since Oct 2004
110 posts
Posted on 10/8/09 at 11:32 am to
Why do these so-called experts always do a "trend analysis" rather than a "matchup analysis", when matchups are what matters the most, not trends.

Neither Florida's 5-0 record, nor LSU's 5-0 record, is going to help them this week. Last year's wins and losses won't help them this week. LSU's string of consecutive Saturday night wins won't help them this Saturday.

Matchups matter. O vs. D, ST's vs. ST's, playcalling, and individual position play will make a difference in this game. Not previous records and trends. I think it's just lazy "sports analysts" who look at the trends as the deciding factor.

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This post was edited on 10/8/09 at 11:33 am
Posted by The312
I Live in The Three One Two
Member since Aug 2008
6967 posts
Posted on 10/8/09 at 11:36 am to
quote:

LSU's string of consecutive Saturday night wins won't help them this Saturday.


The string of victories is indicative of the atmosphere in Tiger Stadium on Saturday night. And that atmosphere will inspire LSU and therefore impact the outcome. That's the intrinsic nature of home field advantage. It's why Vegas usually gives three points to the home team.

Other than that, though, I agree with your assertion.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59084 posts
Posted on 10/8/09 at 11:36 am to
quote:

Matchups matter. O vs. D, ST's vs. ST's, playcalling, and individual position play will make a difference in this game. Not previous records and trends. I think it's just lazy "sports analysts" who look at the trends as the deciding factor.


In Steele's defense he most picks off what he calls fundementals what you are calling matchups. But he does fill his publications with a lot of that type of stuff.
Posted by Tiger_n_ATL
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2005
32453 posts
Posted on 10/8/09 at 11:38 am to
quote:

Why do these so-called experts always do a "trend analysis" rather than a "matchup analysis", when matchups are what matters the most, not trends.
Lazy sportswriters and analysts. They're the rule, not the exception.
Posted by Bayou Sam
Istanbul
Member since Aug 2009
5921 posts
Posted on 10/8/09 at 12:17 pm to
You could also say that an undefeated record and a championship last season are indicative a strong team, but I don't think that's his point.
Posted by Lou the Jew from LSU
Member since Oct 2006
4694 posts
Posted on 10/8/09 at 12:39 pm to
Why do these so-called experts always do a "trend analysis" rather than a "matchup analysis", when matchups are what matters the most, not trends.

Neither Florida's 5-0 record, nor LSU's 5-0 record, is going to help them this week. Last year's wins and losses won't help them this week. LSU's string of consecutive Saturday night wins won't help them this Saturday.

Matchups matter. O vs. D, ST's vs. ST's, playcalling, and individual position play will make a difference in this game. Not previous records and trends. I think it's just lazy "sports analysts" who look at the trends as the deciding factor.

nolg8r, I agree. But look how they all mention the call at UGA, but not the 40 yd. return. The first one writes an opinion, and the rest are lemmings. They are in training to become political pundits.
Posted by 3HourTour
A whiskey barrel
Member since Mar 2006
21223 posts
Posted on 10/8/09 at 12:43 pm to
quote:

Florida's 5-0 record,


I doubt that 5-0 record helps Florida either. But their 4-0 record might.
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