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Posted on 11/23/21 at 3:36 pm to Swazla
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They would be a lot healthier and live longer.
Based on... what?
Posted on 11/23/21 at 3:37 pm to calcotron
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If people want to know the long term effects of ivermectin
What are the longterm effects of ivermectin in terms of treating COVID?
Posted on 11/23/21 at 4:03 pm to brett408
The placebo one
Posted on 11/23/21 at 4:17 pm to barry
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We already know the possible side effects, its a one time shot that is no longer in your body, you don't just suddenly have side effects magically appear 5 years later. They do long-term studies on medicine that you take every day for years at a time. This is like asking what are the effects 5 years from now after drinking a bottle of wine one night
That's just a little scientific arrogance. If you can tell me that in the history of medicine that unpredicted effects never showed up later than expected, sure. But you can't. They have not and cannot track every molecule going in or every molecule's effect on any cell in the body. Pretending that you are saying anything other than "we don't know how it would have long term effects, but we'll see" is just making stuff up.
Posted on 11/23/21 at 4:21 pm to Broski
I don’t know about Covid, but you damn sure won’t get worms.
Posted on 11/23/21 at 4:21 pm to brett408
Novavax
Posted on 11/23/21 at 4:24 pm to brett408
Just got the Phizer booster. First two shots only had soreness at injection site. The booster has given me 2 days of fever, some nausea, headache and overall soreness. I've had a similar experience with a yellow fever vaccine.
Posted on 11/23/21 at 4:28 pm to calcotron
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That is about as irrelevant as asking for the long term effects of ivermectin. These things are new and different. Simply expecting no effects is about as anti science as you can get. You don't know. No one knows.
You dumb shite. You clearly didn't understand my point.
Posted on 11/23/21 at 4:30 pm to brett408
I am the last person to ask this question to cuz I haven't taken any and never will.
Posted on 11/23/21 at 4:34 pm to barry
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It's not, but if you want to warp it in your mind that way, then sure.
You amuse me.
Posted on 11/23/21 at 4:40 pm to barry
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We already know the possible side effects, its a one time shot that is no longer in your body, you don't just suddenly have side effects magically appear 5 years later
No… that’s not how it works…
Thalidomide was a medication available in 1956 to early 1960’s for morning sickness, anxiety, sleep problems. The medication was available in like 40 countries… then a few years later… the birth defects started to increase until 1961 it was withdrawn in Great Britain. 5+ years with over 10,000 babies deformed with 40% death rate after birth…
That’s an example of long-term effects…
This post was edited on 11/23/21 at 4:44 pm
Posted on 11/23/21 at 4:43 pm to crazy4lsu
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You dumb shite. You clearly didn't understand my point.
I responded to the only reasonable point you can read into your post. If you continued talking in your head after hitting submit, it doesn't help the rest of us. The point is that lumping mRNA into a group including past vaccines for any kind of comparison is dumb.
Posted on 11/23/21 at 4:43 pm to StanSmith
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The booster has given me 2 days of fever, some nausea, headache and overall soreness.
Hate to hear this…I need to get my booster as well.
Posted on 11/23/21 at 4:49 pm to brett408
the one that Antonio Brown took...
The Fake Vaccine Card Vaccination, it is symptom free and has no short or long term side effects.
The Fake Vaccine Card Vaccination, it is symptom free and has no short or long term side effects.
Posted on 11/23/21 at 4:51 pm to Lokistale
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Thalidomide was a medication available in 1956 to early 1960’s for morning sickness, anxiety, sleep problems. The medication was available in like 40 countries… then a few years later… the birth defects started to increase until 1961 it was withdrawn in Great Britain. 5+ years with over 10,000 babies deformed with 40% death rate after birth…
Except the Thalidomide case occurred for a few specific reasons. Firstly, there was no strong testing standard, and the product, first synthesized in 1954, showed no toxicity in animals, except those reports were poorly written and should not have been accepted for publication, as the teratogenic effects appeared only in rabbits and nonhuman primates. The first paper that suggested thalidomide was the cause of birth defects was published in 1958, by Widukind Lenz, and finally recognized in 1961.
There are no similar instances of long-term effects with vaccines in general, which is why always bringing up the long-term effects is a weird caveat. The effects of thalidomide were noticed immediately, but it took time to first convince the proper authorities that it was indeed thalidomide. We actually use thalidomide derivatives currently too, but obviously not in the first trimester of pregnancy.
This post was edited on 11/23/21 at 4:57 pm
Posted on 11/23/21 at 4:52 pm to calcotron
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I responded to the only reasonable point you can read into your post. If you continued talking in your head after hitting submit, it doesn't help the rest of us. The point is that lumping mRNA into a group including past vaccines for any kind of comparison is dumb.
Lol. Again, the question is simple. What are the long-term effects associated with other vaccines? It is an exceedingly simple question. Just answer it directly if you can.
Posted on 11/23/21 at 4:56 pm to brett408
Not an expert but wasn't JJ the one that was recently haulted overseas somewhere?
Posted on 11/23/21 at 5:06 pm to crazy4lsu
Who cares? They don't work the same way at all. There is no point of asking or answering your question.
Posted on 11/23/21 at 5:10 pm to crazy4lsu
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Can you list some of the long-term effects of vaccines generally?
This is what I saw for smallpox vaccine.
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Moderate to Severe Problems Serious eye infection, or loss of vision, due to spread of vaccine virus to the eye. Rash on entire body (as many as 1 per 4,000). Severe rash on people with eczema (as many as 1 per 26,000). Encephalitis (severe brain reaction), which can lead to permanent brain damage (as many as 1 per 83,000). Severe infection beginning at the vaccination site (as many as 1 per 667,000, mostly in people with weakened immune systems). Death (1-2 per million, mostly in people with weakened immune systems).
I’m not about to go through every single one.
But I consider brain damage and death long term effects.
This post was edited on 11/23/21 at 5:14 pm
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