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re: The ***OFFICIAL*** 11th Annual JFK Assassination Conspiracy Thread
Posted on 11/22/21 at 12:08 pm to IceTiger
Posted on 11/22/21 at 12:08 pm to IceTiger
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- they fed the FBI information to look into, and the FBI obliged to followed the red herring paper trail. They kept the FBI away from Marcello and searching around NO for all the stuff that was really going on.
- they had Oswald (and others) believing they were doing shite for their country and used them like chess pieces around the world. Proof is Oswald being with the anti-commie Cubans in LA, being pro-commie in NO, anti-commie in NO, going to Russia, etc. That wasn't the mob involved in that, it was the spooks in NO. They likely picked Oswald up in the marines.
This seems sorta plausible to me based on what I know personally.
My wife's grandfather was an FBI agent at the time (and is quoted in the Warren Commission Report) and he was diverted from Oswald related interviews in New Orleans to go to Dallas.
He later became the lead investigator for Jim Garrison.
I've had a FOIA request for all of his FBI records going on for 6 years. They've only sent 1/3 of the materials (not to the JFK assassination period yet) and things keep getting delayed because they still "pertain to matters of national security."
I doubt I'll ever get anything groundbreaking out of it but the other stuff he did is still pretty cool to read about.
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Posted on 11/22/21 at 12:13 pm to IceTiger
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- they released a full dossier on LHO internationally within hours, well before pre-internet and early in international phone calls.
- they modified the Zapruder footage to be passable as a 1-shooter film.
- they cleared at least 2 foreign snipers (allegedly French mob hitmen from Marseille) to enter the country.
- they dialed down defense support in Dallas for that weekend.
- they fed the FBI information to look into, and the FBI obliged to followed the red herring paper trail. They kept the FBI away from Marcello and searching around NO for all the stuff that was really going on.
- they had Oswald (and others) believing they were doing shite for their country and used them like chess pieces around the world. Proof is Oswald being with the anti-commie Cubans in LA, being pro-commie in NO, anti-commie in NO, going to Russia, etc. That wasn't the mob involved in that, it was the spooks in NO. They likely picked Oswald up in the marines.
Its that time of year again, where people think the movie JFK was a true story.
Posted on 11/22/21 at 12:15 pm to LCA131
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In what way did this happen?
The Zapruder film was bought by Life magazine within the first day. Life let the feds know they had it, so the feds went on contract to borrow the footage.
It was sent to the "spook" side of the Kodak lab to be developed for review. In the first night (Saturday), the duty agent developed the film and returned it to the waiting federal agents.
The very next night, the film was returned to the lab to get developed again, this time the head of the CIA film lab would develop it. The second version would go on to be what we see as the Zapruder film, with many edits.
Years later...the Zapruder film was released...
Agent 1 knew it was altered but could not say anything for treasonous reasons. It wasn't until 4-5 years ago, an archival specialist at the Smithsonian noticed a difference in the negatives with the footage, he began a search which revealed the two films, and came to the conclusion a Hollywood level edit team works the film.
What does that tell us?
Posted on 11/22/21 at 12:18 pm to BugAC
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Its that time of year again, where people think the movie JFK was a true story.
Harry Connick Jr. has a good-looking wife. You gonna deny that too?
Such a sap.
Posted on 11/22/21 at 12:20 pm to BugAC
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Its that time of year again, where people think the movie JFK was a true story
Only one point in there is from the JFK movie, which came from LF Prouty...
In that no significant DoD support was provided for the POTUS in Dallas.
I worked in the AF side of POTUS support for 4 years, when he moves, we moved.
The rest is from police records, and actual events etc.
This post was edited on 11/22/21 at 12:45 pm
Posted on 11/22/21 at 12:21 pm to Kafka
Whatever happened to the documents that were supposed to be released to the public around 2020 ? did that ever happen? Or did it get pushed back so as not to expose how corrupt the government agencies are?
Posted on 11/22/21 at 12:21 pm to BugAC
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Its that time of year again, where people think the movie JFK was a true story.
Because everything the government tells us is the truth.
Posted on 11/22/21 at 12:23 pm to bearglove
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I've had a FOIA request for all of his FBI records going on for 6 years. They've only sent 1/3 of the materials (not to the JFK assassination period yet) and things keep getting delayed because they still "pertain to matters of national security."
I doubt I'll ever get anything groundbreaking out of it but the other stuff he did is still pretty cool to read about.
It's in record, all the recently released JFK docs had the FBI sniffing around Tampa and other places of no consequence during the investigation.
This seemed to be an intentional red herring. And the tops of both agencies must have known or they wouldn't be in obviously incorrect places.
Posted on 11/22/21 at 12:24 pm to EvrybodysAllAmerican
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Whatever happened to the documents that were supposed to be released to the public around 2020 ? did that ever happen? Or did it get pushed back so as not to expose how corrupt the government agencies are?
A bunch got dumped but most were FBI pages on routine interviews with people as far from Dallas as possible.
Posted on 11/22/21 at 12:28 pm to BugAC
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Its that time of year again, where people think the movie JFK was a true story.
To add:
This is a couple years removed from the FBI declaring having an insurance plan to remove the President post election...
You don't think these agencies have been running like this since the beginning?
Posted on 11/22/21 at 12:32 pm to Kafka
Pelosi did it because JFK groped her
Posted on 11/22/21 at 12:34 pm to EA6B
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Ruby”’s actions that day have been proven to be totally random, that he happened to arrive at the courthouse exactly when Oswald was being moved was just blind luck.
It was that or a get cut into pieces in a barn somewhere. Not to mention the Dallas LCN boss was Marcello's cousin who was born in WBR parish and was basically a satellite crew for New Orleans at the time. They were already in Dallas operating smoothly and sharing rackets with Chicago and the Midwest.
ETA: sniffing around Tampa would have made sense as Trafficante was close with all of those involved and a lot of the CIA involvement with Operation Mongoose went through New Orleans and definitely Tampa and Miami.
This post was edited on 11/22/21 at 12:36 pm
Posted on 11/22/21 at 12:37 pm to IceTiger
What is your opinion of Cyril Wecht?
Posted on 11/22/21 at 12:38 pm to IceTiger
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they released a full dossier on LHO internationally within hours, well before pre-internet and early in international phone calls.
Movie - agent x
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- they cleared at least 2 foreign snipers (allegedly French mob hitmen from Marseille) to enter the country.
Partial movie - agent x
quote:
- they dialed down defense support in Dallas for that weekend.
Movie - agent x
quote:
- they had Oswald (and others) believing they were doing shite for their country and used them like chess pieces around the world. Proof is Oswald being with the anti-commie Cubans in LA, being pro-commie in NO, anti-commie in NO, going to Russia, etc. That wasn't the mob involved in that, it was the spooks in NO. They likely picked Oswald up in the marines.
Movie
Give me a minute and i'll find the refutations of these points.
Posted on 11/22/21 at 12:39 pm to Kafka
My girlfriend's grandparents just moved and 2 photos I noticed laying out were JFK and Ronald Reagan. Both were shot. He is 82. Maybe he was orchestrating it from the CIA.
Posted on 11/22/21 at 12:40 pm to BugAC
Agent X is LF Prouty...
He's a real guy
He's a real guy
This post was edited on 11/22/21 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 11/22/21 at 12:43 pm to LCA131
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If it's your contention that all signage points to excess grainage and math will be involved, then you will need to show your work young man.
Here you go... LINK
I originally saw this on one of the many documentaries on the subject and was surprised.
If the Magic Bullet was considered to be near pristine with little to no bullet grainage lost how could there be so much existing in John Connolly? The documentary also showed Connolly's x-rays and noted the fragments that couldn't be removed.
Posted on 11/22/21 at 12:55 pm to LCA131
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What is your opinion of Cyril Wecht?
He found the brain mass wasn't documented and the evidence was lost, right?
Not sure other than he's usually right about stuff.
Posted on 11/22/21 at 1:04 pm to BorrisMart
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It was that or a get cut into pieces in a barn somewhere
If that was the case Ruby was the worlds worst at planning s hit. They traced his steps that morning, at any stop he made had taken s few minutes longer, had he caught a couple of traffic lights on red he would have arrived after Oswald was moved. Additionally, Oswald should have already been moved before Ruby arrived, the only reason Oswald was still at the courthouse is that Oswald himself had requested that he be allowed to change shirts delaying him being moved. That Ruby was tasked with killing Oswald has been debunked or decades.
Posted on 11/22/21 at 1:07 pm to Kafka
Oswald was a patsy....I seem to convince myself of this more and more as the years go by.
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