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Posted on 11/10/21 at 10:50 pm to SG_Geaux
Comment on tik tok.
“Only way Kyle is found guilty is if the jury gets to mail in their votes.”
“Only way Kyle is found guilty is if the jury gets to mail in their votes.”
Posted on 11/10/21 at 10:55 pm to SG_Geaux
quote:
I still don't understand how the defense came to the conclusion that putting Kyle on the stand was a good idea.
I thought he did really well. The judge is so pissed with the prosecutors that he may very well dismiss with prejudice.
Posted on 11/10/21 at 10:55 pm to the808bass
quote:
Stunning & Brave
@Brave_Stunning
Motion to rename the rifle to the KR-15 going forward, say aye
Posted on 11/10/21 at 11:15 pm to SG_Geaux
quote:I get how all the observers say it was wrong to do.
I still don't understand how the defense came to the conclusion that putting Kyle on the stand was a good idea.
On the other hand- while the trial so far has openly cleared him of shooting GG, and skateboard guy, it was still a little vague on just how close Angry Little Man (the first one shot) got. Assumption based on just how unhinged he appears on video- he's a threat.
But if it were me, I would want to clear my name on this one too. Practically speaking, this shouldn't have even come to trial, and yet it has. He has been accused of murder, and the mainstream media, and the fricking President of the United States has called him a domestic terrorist. I would perceive that the deck is completely stacked against me, and I would want EVERYTHING played out.
Posted on 11/10/21 at 11:27 pm to BuckyCheese
quote:
I'm assuming that was behind the refusal to serve the warrant.
Local or otherwise high profile demoncrats would have been implicated and shown to be involved in planning the mostly peaceful riots, and you know we can't allow that to get out.
This post was edited on 11/10/21 at 11:32 pm
Posted on 11/10/21 at 11:27 pm to WPBTiger
How much longer is this shite show?
The judge is probably tired of it even more.
The judge is probably tired of it even more.
Posted on 11/10/21 at 11:29 pm to SG_Geaux
quote:I suspect they advised Kyle not to but Kyle felt the risk was worth it to get his story entered into the public record under threat of perjury and cross examined by a hostile ADA.
still don't understand how the defense came to the conclusion that putting Kyle on the stand was a good idea.
Have you ever seen an ADA display such obvious hatred of s defendant before? How unprofessional.
It's obvious ADA hates Kyle and anyone who would help his case.
Look what he tried to do to Forrest.
This post was edited on 11/10/21 at 11:30 pm
Posted on 11/10/21 at 11:37 pm to CAD703X
Here's a thought-
could the defense have POSSIBLY have scripted this trial, to set the prosecutors up as assholes?
Photo guy, etc-
and then put Kyle (as an earnest, 'decent' kid) up there to get harassed and antagonized by the "a-hole prosecutor"?
Win the jury's sympathy? Do you DARE try that?
Could that be why the defense didn't object to a lot of the badgering, because they wanted to create that sense of hostility from the jury?
Could be assuming you probably had the legal part won, wanted to display this as a pure witchhunt?
could the defense have POSSIBLY have scripted this trial, to set the prosecutors up as assholes?
Photo guy, etc-
and then put Kyle (as an earnest, 'decent' kid) up there to get harassed and antagonized by the "a-hole prosecutor"?
Win the jury's sympathy? Do you DARE try that?
Could that be why the defense didn't object to a lot of the badgering, because they wanted to create that sense of hostility from the jury?
Could be assuming you probably had the legal part won, wanted to display this as a pure witchhunt?
Posted on 11/10/21 at 11:44 pm to Scoob
I don't see it
It's a case where a lot of videos were available long before this trial. Prosecution had some angles that got shut down before today. Kyle for some reason was on the stand today
I find it very hard to believe the defense attorneys wanted Kyle up there
It's a case where a lot of videos were available long before this trial. Prosecution had some angles that got shut down before today. Kyle for some reason was on the stand today
I find it very hard to believe the defense attorneys wanted Kyle up there
Posted on 11/10/21 at 11:55 pm to Scoob
So, relevant facts here:
Rosenbaum (the Pedophile)
Pedo issues two death threats to Kyle (one could be argued indirect threat, but still).
Kyle never initiates any hostilities with Pedo
Pedo stalks and begins chasing Kyle.
Kyle runs away, Pedo continues pursuit.
Pedo throws something; Kyle turns and points gun at him, doesn’t fire and runs away again.
Pedo continues pursuit, corners and reaches for Kyle’s gun and is shot to death.
Q- Did Kyle act in reasonable self-defense? Y/N
Jump Kick Man
Kyle is fleeing towards police after shooting Pedo.
An ever-growing group of people are following Kyle with shouts of “get his arse”.
Someone throws a flying right jab at Kyle from behind; Kyle doesn’t react; keeps running.
Kyle never initiates hostilities towards anyone.
Kyle slips and falls down; JKM attacks with a boot to Kyle’s face.
While JKM is above him, Kyle fires twice, missing both shots.
JKM instantly runs off and we never see him again.
Kyle doesn’t pursue him.
Q- Did Kyle use reasonable self-defense against JKM?
Skaterdied
Immediately after JKM, Skaterdied initiates hostilities with Kyle.
Skaterdied attacks Kyle by slamming his board on Kyle’s head.
Kyle, still on the ground, rolls and fires a single shot at Skaterdied.
Skaterdied immediately disengages, stumbles away and drops to the ground.
Kyle doesn’t pursue nor fire any other shot at Skaterdied because he’s no longer a threat.
Q- Did Kyle use reasonable self-defense against Skaterdied?
BYEcep/Unicep/Commie
Immediately after Skaterdied event, BYEcep rushes towards Kyle.
Kyle sits up, arse to ground , sees BYEcep and presents firearm in low ready position.
BYEcep raises both hands indicating “don’t shoot”.
Kyle doesn’t shoot even though he notices the pistol BYEcep is holding.
Kyle looks down to attempt to gather himself up off the ground.
BYEcep rushes Kyle and initiates hostilities.
BYEcep attempts to grab AR-15 and points pistol at/in direction of Kyle at point-blank range.
Kyle fires a single shot, vaporizing BYEcep’s….well, bicep.
BYEcep staggers away.
Kyle gets to his feet, assesses the situation, sees no other immediate threats. No more shots fired.
Kyle goes straight to the police who pepper-spray him for his troubles.
Q- Did Kyle use reasonable self-defense against BYEcep?
Everything else is pure courtroom preening & prancing. Entertaining, but not relevant. It’s either immaterial to the events or other non-contributing factors. Whether Kyle had a license to drive, he shouldn’t have had a firearm, someone involved had a criminal record, it was a full moon, ADA Binger is a far-left butt goblin…these are ultimately meaningless. Answer those above questions and you got your verdict.
Rosenbaum (the Pedophile)
Pedo issues two death threats to Kyle (one could be argued indirect threat, but still).
Kyle never initiates any hostilities with Pedo
Pedo stalks and begins chasing Kyle.
Kyle runs away, Pedo continues pursuit.
Pedo throws something; Kyle turns and points gun at him, doesn’t fire and runs away again.
Pedo continues pursuit, corners and reaches for Kyle’s gun and is shot to death.
Q- Did Kyle act in reasonable self-defense? Y/N
Jump Kick Man
Kyle is fleeing towards police after shooting Pedo.
An ever-growing group of people are following Kyle with shouts of “get his arse”.
Someone throws a flying right jab at Kyle from behind; Kyle doesn’t react; keeps running.
Kyle never initiates hostilities towards anyone.
Kyle slips and falls down; JKM attacks with a boot to Kyle’s face.
While JKM is above him, Kyle fires twice, missing both shots.
JKM instantly runs off and we never see him again.
Kyle doesn’t pursue him.
Q- Did Kyle use reasonable self-defense against JKM?
Skaterdied
Immediately after JKM, Skaterdied initiates hostilities with Kyle.
Skaterdied attacks Kyle by slamming his board on Kyle’s head.
Kyle, still on the ground, rolls and fires a single shot at Skaterdied.
Skaterdied immediately disengages, stumbles away and drops to the ground.
Kyle doesn’t pursue nor fire any other shot at Skaterdied because he’s no longer a threat.
Q- Did Kyle use reasonable self-defense against Skaterdied?
BYEcep/Unicep/Commie
Immediately after Skaterdied event, BYEcep rushes towards Kyle.
Kyle sits up, arse to ground , sees BYEcep and presents firearm in low ready position.
BYEcep raises both hands indicating “don’t shoot”.
Kyle doesn’t shoot even though he notices the pistol BYEcep is holding.
Kyle looks down to attempt to gather himself up off the ground.
BYEcep rushes Kyle and initiates hostilities.
BYEcep attempts to grab AR-15 and points pistol at/in direction of Kyle at point-blank range.
Kyle fires a single shot, vaporizing BYEcep’s….well, bicep.
BYEcep staggers away.
Kyle gets to his feet, assesses the situation, sees no other immediate threats. No more shots fired.
Kyle goes straight to the police who pepper-spray him for his troubles.
Q- Did Kyle use reasonable self-defense against BYEcep?
Everything else is pure courtroom preening & prancing. Entertaining, but not relevant. It’s either immaterial to the events or other non-contributing factors. Whether Kyle had a license to drive, he shouldn’t have had a firearm, someone involved had a criminal record, it was a full moon, ADA Binger is a far-left butt goblin…these are ultimately meaningless. Answer those above questions and you got your verdict.
Posted on 11/11/21 at 12:00 am to mjthe
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I find it very hard to believe the defense attorneys wanted Kyle up there
The opinions on this are the far ends of the spectrum it appears. Very interesting. Wild and crazy stuff.
I strongly opine that defense counsel probably found the decision as to whether to call KR to be the easiest such decision they've ever had to make, on this specific subject. I believe the most prudent approach is to go into every trial with the thought that "geez, I hope we have an opportunity to call the client this time". 9 times out of 10, when they get into the bones of the decision making process on that issue, the cost/benefit analysis leads to clear conclusion against it. Key factors in that analysis being prior convictions of the client which the state could bring to light, the effectiveness of client in public speaking, the apparent confidence level of client, and yes, the attorney privately ponders his true thoughts as to whether client is truly guilty or not. Rittens checked all those boxes to the positive. It was a great call. JMO of course.
Posted on 11/11/21 at 12:01 am to Jrv2damac
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How much longer is this shite show?
The judge told the jury today that it should be finished by Monday or Tuesday
This post was edited on 11/11/21 at 12:02 am
Posted on 11/11/21 at 12:02 am to The Quiet One
Well done Quiet One.
Posted on 11/11/21 at 12:05 am to Scoob
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He has been accused of murder,
Always keep in mind in these trials… the defendant HAS committed murder. There is zero doubt of that.
The trials are always whether it was justified in the eyes of the state laws.
Posted on 11/11/21 at 12:08 am to davyjones
quote:
The opinions on this are the far ends of the spectrum it appears. Very interesting. Wild and crazy stuff.
It's what makes law very interesting
Posted on 11/11/21 at 12:11 am to Meauxjeaux
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Always keep in mind in these trials… the defendant HAS committed murder. There is zero doubt of that.
The word is homicide. Murder is about intent. All murders are homicides. Not all homicides are murders.
Posted on 11/11/21 at 12:14 am to mjthe
quote:
It's what makes law very interesting
For sure. That's what it's really all about, by its very nature. Propose opposing viewpoints, and arguing for or against.
Posted on 11/11/21 at 12:20 am to BuckyCheese
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A pistol concealed at your lower back like Unicep had does nothing for deterrence as no sees it.
It’s also a charge idiot boy should receive for not having valid ccw
Posted on 11/11/21 at 12:28 am to MFn GIMP
quote:I'm working with a defense contractor on a scanning system that can "see" minute changes in Ocean wave patterns to find small objects (like people) in large swatches of sea surface area. It uses AI to find abnormal patterns, then it keeps working on those patterns until through processes of elimination that AI can locate the missing object. This is done in 10-15 seconds.
My poor man Android's "night sight" can take a picture in near complete darkness and use AI to add in color and images which is amazing but it's not always 100% accurate.
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