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re: Update on the coaching search: The next HC will not be Jimbo Fisher.

Posted on 11/2/21 at 3:30 pm to
Posted by Byrdybyrd05
Member since Nov 2014
25720 posts
Posted on 11/2/21 at 3:30 pm to
Is he to the east, west, south, or north of us?
Posted by Tyga4lyfe
Best bank
Member since Nov 2013
2043 posts
Posted on 11/2/21 at 3:31 pm to
Unlucky has come alive- give us a small hint- keep this thread guessing
Posted by Objective Tiger
Houston, Texas
Member since Nov 2021
41 posts
Posted on 11/2/21 at 3:39 pm to
Dude, that is delusion, or maybe hyper-cynicism is the better word. Dabo is a top 5 coach and recruiter in college football, period. Is he a little weird? Yeah. But he is great at what he does. Not good, great. He would be a home run hire.
This post was edited on 11/2/21 at 3:41 pm
Posted by TigerDawg1212
Member since Sep 2021
506 posts
Posted on 11/2/21 at 3:41 pm to
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False. What Dabo did at Clemson could never be done at Ole Miss.


You can nitpick the exact school choice all you want, but Clemson was a mid tier at best ACC school before Dabo. I don't know if your join date remotely correlates with when you started watching football, but if you started 2011 or later you have a very skewed perception of what Clemson is. Their previous two coaches had a win percentage of .615 and .525 with fairly long tenures, it's not a large school (~60% the size of LSU which isn't a notably big institution in its own right), the school wasn't rich, and the stadium "only" holds 81.5k. Their only real recruiting pipeline is hoping that Atlanta kids won't be particularly big UGA fans (which most are). It's a minor miracle that Dabo did what he did there even if he definitely got help from the good programs in the ACC all collapsing.
Posted by natethegreat
Member since Dec 2008
740 posts
Posted on 11/2/21 at 3:50 pm to
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Going to be a solid hire


At this point, there's only one solid hire I can think of


Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
5060 posts
Posted on 11/2/21 at 3:55 pm to
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Which is down into Tier 2 coaches for the supposed Top 5 coaching job in the country



Top 5 job doesn’t mean top 5 resume

The only top 10 jobs that have gotten 10 top resume coaches in the last 20 years is Bama when hired Saban and A&M with Jimbo and OSU with urban

But then OSU hired an unproven OC the next time

So if you care about that perception then pull for Jimbo or Riley to be the hire
Posted by Ironhead985
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
8754 posts
Posted on 11/2/21 at 3:57 pm to
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He doesnt even know who Ponamsky is

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He spends most of his posts on SEC Rant or Saints talk. He doesnt know anything. He just wants attention.
Well, I don’t know what the Mel Tucker is superior stuff stems from, but that doesn’t mean that I don’t know shite. I mean, I don’t, but still
Posted by GoodOlBoy7
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2017
118 posts
Posted on 11/2/21 at 4:06 pm to
No way Dabo stays long term. He is destined to take over Saban and return to his alma mater
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 11/2/21 at 4:07 pm to
But they ALL knew exactly who and what they were getting
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
15929 posts
Posted on 11/2/21 at 4:10 pm to
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It's a minor miracle that Dabo did what he did there even if he definitely got help from the good programs in the ACC all collapsing.

Don't underestimate that Dabo was also able to get the administrative support his predecessors were lacking.

Danny Ford resigned after butting heads with the school president over a football dorm. When Tommy West got fired, he reportedly told Tommy Bowden to not let the school continue blowing off facility upgrades. Bowden then nearly left for Arkansas until Clemson finally gave into some demands.

I'm not downplaying anything Dabo has accomplished, but that program was never "poor little Clemson". In the 90s, they were looked at as a sleeping giant much like LSU used to be. Administrators held back their potential.
Posted by DWag215
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2011
7224 posts
Posted on 11/2/21 at 4:11 pm to
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When Texas eventually makes it back (and they will), it will have a catastrophic effect on ATM's recruiting, just as it always has.

You mean like when Mack Brown led Texas during the Longhorn Golden Era?

Or do you mean back when Daryl Royal was running the show and A&M was an all-male military school?

Wouldn't hold your breath. This ain't the 1960s or early 2000s.

Posted by BuddyBuckets1
Member since Nov 2016
553 posts
Posted on 11/2/21 at 4:21 pm to
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You mean like when Mack Brown led Texas during the Longhorn Golden Era?

Or do you mean back when Daryl Royal was running the show and A&M was an all-male military school?

Wouldn't hold your breath. This ain't the 1960s or early 2000s.



It isn't 1939 or 1998 either.
Posted by DWag215
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2011
7224 posts
Posted on 11/2/21 at 4:26 pm to
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It isn't 1939 or 1998 either.

Exactly.

Unlike the yester-years, A&M now has more money than God, a generous and passionate alumni base several hundred thousand deep, the best facilities in the country (with more to come), and a football coach who rivals are desperate to see leave.

Things sure have changed, haven't they?
This post was edited on 11/2/21 at 4:28 pm
Posted by BuddyBuckets1
Member since Nov 2016
553 posts
Posted on 11/2/21 at 4:44 pm to
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Exactly.

Unlike the yester-years, A&M has more money than God, a generous and passionate alumni base several hundred thousand deep, the best facilities in the country (with more to come), and a football coach who rivals are desperate to see leave.

Things sure have changed, haven't they?



The more things change, the more they stay the same.

To date, what has the money gotten A&M?

32–12 (SEC 20–10)
An almost playoff appearance
and Zach Calzada.

Congrats.

Posted by DWag215
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2011
7224 posts
Posted on 11/2/21 at 5:01 pm to
I mean, something about Rome and how long it took …

Since hiring Jimbo, A&M has the third highest winning percentage in the SEC. Is that the end goal? No. But when Bama and UGA are the only teams in front of you and you’re recruiting at a top 5 level, you have reason to feel good about where you’re heading.

Gotta love how these standards work though.

On the one hand, A&M is a mediocre program with an immovable ceiling. Second tier forever. On the other hand, any coach that A&M hires must instantly deliver national championships. If he doesn’t it’s just more proof that you can’t win big at A&M.
This post was edited on 11/2/21 at 5:03 pm
Posted by theOG
Member since Feb 2010
10517 posts
Posted on 11/2/21 at 5:10 pm to
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A&M is a mediocre program with an immovable ceiling


It’s not really the point of this thread, but I couldn’t agree more.
Posted by ROJO
Texas
Member since Oct 2021
32 posts
Posted on 11/2/21 at 5:46 pm to
I’ll just say, success doesn’t happen overnight… your blind ic you don’t think they are headed the right direction..
Posted by thanksjhester
Sonic
Member since Jun 2009
5411 posts
Posted on 11/2/21 at 8:16 pm to
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, and a football coach who rivals are desperate to see leave.
Bless your heart. You actually believe this shite. We dont want your coach. He is too hit or miss and damn sure wouldnt pay what yall do for him. Aggies have the most delusional fan base in cf.
Posted by Oneforthemoney
New Iberia, La
Member since Dec 2013
1807 posts
Posted on 11/2/21 at 8:56 pm to
I'll go with Oh Fleck built two programs at 2 school in two different conferences and win coach of tge test in two different different. I'll take Fleck if I'm wrong
Posted by t - cam
Dallas
Member since Sep 2012
332 posts
Posted on 11/2/21 at 8:57 pm to
Cute you think your A&Ms rival. He was referring to the never ending daydreaming that occurs on longhorn message boards daily wanting so badly for jimbo to head to LSU.
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