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SI seems to be saying the players laid down last year over O's Trump remarks-is that true?

Posted on 10/18/21 at 10:02 am
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 10:02 am
I am no Trump fan but what O said about the POTUS after the team visit to the White House was simply polite and should not have offended anyone. SI seems to be saying the team racial strife of last summer was caused by those remarks. Woodward seemed to fall all over himself to accommodate the black players but the reporter says the strife created was the reason for the poor season.

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But the losses on the field are a direct result of the off-the-field problems, sources claim. The 5–5 season came only after a turbulent summer in Baton Rouge, where players, as they did at many other programs after a police officer murdered a Black Minneapolis man named George Floyd, staged a march across campus to protest social injustice and support the Black Lives Matter movement. At LSU, it took a different turn.

Two weeks before the march, Orgeron appeared on a Fox News segment where the host asked him repeated questions about the post-championship trip to the White House and his thoughts on then-President Donald Trump. He said he “loved” Trump and that “he’s doing a fantastic job.” Amid the pandemic and in an election year, it was a startling comment for the leader of a largely Black football team during one of the most divisive times in the country’s history.

Word about the television comments reached the team. One former player even weighed in on Twitter. Orgeron is a “great man,” but he is “blind to everything else,” defensive end K’Lavon Chaisson tweeted.


A childhood friend of Orgeron and a longtime LSU booster defends the coach.

“They asked him if Trump treated him good and he said yeah, Trump treated him good,” the man says. “I mean, what are you supposed to say?” The friend acknowledges that “it all went downhill from there.”

A couple of weeks later, LSU players staged their march. A former player’s parent described the march as more of a player “revolt” as anger within the team swelled over the coach’s comments and inaction. JaCoby Stevens, then a senior safety, told players inside the locker room that they would not play football for Orgeron until “we get this fixed,” a source recalls.

Without their coach, the players then marched to the school president’s office, where Orgeron later arrived, emerging from a Black SUV with Woodward and then holding a team meeting at the site. Despite the glowing public portrayal of the meeting, those who attended describe it differently. One source says it was Woodward’s first piece of real “evidence” that “the job is too big for [Orgeron].”

Nearly every person who spoke to SI described that day—Aug. 28, 2020—as the date in which the coach “lost” his football team. “They really f----- up all the social justice stuff last year,” says one former player. “There’s no getting the team back after that.”


“The players believed in their heart that this president [Trump] is causing harm to them and their culture,” says another source. “Whether you believe it or not, you can’t go on there.”


How much should one pay to support a group of young men that lay down on the team over something like that? Clearly there is no gratitude for the opportunity to play for LSU.
Posted by Cshaw91
Member since Mar 2019
2331 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 10:04 am to
Sports Illustrated like most media in this country is just another arm of the democrat propaganda machine. Any chance they get to make “orange man bad” they run with it. The players couldn’t have been upset with him bringing his girlfriends to practice and their freaking kids right? It was cause O made a polite gesture towards POTUS.
This post was edited on 10/18/21 at 11:10 am
Posted by Geauxtigersgeaux12
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2019
2188 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 10:04 am to
Too much is being read into this. Nobody visits the white house and then says I hate the president. The players clearly had a good time regardless of political stance. It was just another narrative to divide.
Posted by J_Hingle
LA
Member since Jun 2013
5111 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 10:05 am to
When they say former player, do they mean former player from under O's regime here or just a former player in general. Because if I had to guess, former player would be Ryan Clark or Booger or some shite
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
10473 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 10:06 am to
Literally nothing in that article says that.
Posted by blackjackjackson
fourth dimension
Member since May 2008
7677 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 10:07 am to
Orgeron's comments of support for former President Donald Trump — whom his Black players believed espoused racist ideologies and theories — contributed to him losing his team. So too did his lack of support for players' demonstrations against racial inequality and injustice prior to the start of the 2020 season.

LINK
Posted by Clark W Griswold
THE USA
Member since Sep 2012
10513 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 10:08 am to
One of the team leaders is a big Trump fan I know. He doesn’t hide it on social media in the past yet seems to get along just fine with everyone. I don’t think this is seriously a major issue.
Posted by blackjackjackson
fourth dimension
Member since May 2008
7677 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 10:08 am to
SOME people are just too stupid to understand!
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
78087 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 10:11 am to
Going on foxnews was the real problem. Why do that? Ask yourself this, who do you think set that interview up for him? Someone who is probably his assistant that is also very conservative. Ultimately Derek was partially responsible for the fall……ironic
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
279242 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 10:15 am to
Don’t think they laid down. The coaching just sucked and Orgeron was tone deaf & no one responded to him any more
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23928 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 10:16 am to
It's obviously a complicated relationship between the players and the coach. Last year was extremely stressful due to Covid for players in a contact sport like football. It would be a shame if the general high tension got expressed through seemingly small offenses, leading to a real breakdown of the relationship.

I hope that whatever it was, the team gets it behind them and moves forward to greatness.
Posted by Walnut
College Station, TX
Member since Nov 2014
3595 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 10:18 am to
I would be surprised if these kids had a very strong opinion of Trump, outside of maybe “I don’t like him”

My political opinions in college were the equivalent of team sports, I wouldn’t put too much stock into anything SI is saying here
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
120593 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 10:19 am to
The media wants to blame trump for everything
Posted by AllenTXTiger
Dallas, TX Area
Member since Oct 2004
550 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 10:21 am to
Words are powerful, don't underestimate these kids awareness. They know the ugly side of the history of America and Trump's antics.

So Yes, he lost a lot of the black kids and some white kids as well for what my relative on the team has shared with our family. Though he likes Coach O, it rubbed him the wrong way. Being a-political or just shutting up would have just been better for Coach O in that situation.

Sorry down voters, but the truth hurts.
This post was edited on 10/18/21 at 10:28 am
Posted by LazloHollyfeld
Steam Tunnel at UNC-G
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 10/18/21 at 10:25 am to
Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
54627 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 10:26 am to
He was tone deaf to the situation. He should’ve marched with his team.
Posted by Bandits58
Mississippi
Member since Sep 2015
3011 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 10:26 am to
First of all if you go to FBI. Gov it will tell you all you need to know about what the real problem is. Trump did not harm anyone . I’m not a trump fan but this is getting ridiculous!! Second sports illustrated is liberal as frick! They want to destroy the program. Way to Geaux woke LSU!!
Posted by LSUPHILLY72
Member since Aug 2010
5358 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 10:34 am to
quote:

the players laid down last year over O's Trump remarks-is that true?


Not true. But close.
Posted by LSUDobber
Hammond, LA
Member since Jun 2004
858 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 10:36 am to
Yes....and Ryan Clark stoked the flame
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56577 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 10:44 am to
If that is true O never had their hearts and souls. I think it was the right thing to do to not get in the middle of it, let the young men do what THEY think is right and not get any of the attention as a white man.

O did nothing wrong there. I wanted him out. But damn people look at some stupid shite. I wanted him out because we are falling further behind the good programs and are light years behind the elites.

But being at a march shouldnt have any bearing on the players. They shouldve always known he was in their corner.
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