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re: What would the 2018 season record be if Ed never lands burrow?
Posted on 10/15/21 at 11:00 am to LSUfan4444
Posted on 10/15/21 at 11:00 am to LSUfan4444
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Sounds like you pretty much agree with me
No. I'm saying that the way you're interpreting this hypothetical is possibly worse for O.
So we go into 2018 with 2018 Brenan and a bad offensive system? No other scholarship QBs? You think that's going to lead to a solid season? That would be worse than McMillan (especially since JM was by all accounts well ahead of Brennan and Lowell that spring).
And Fields was not coming here. He had regrets after not picking OSU initially and was always going there once he didn't start at UGA. He just lied to get a free transfer.
Hurts isn't in the same universe as Burrow. Hurts also took his huge step under a legit CFB offensive master, who we don't have on staff.
Bryant is significantly worse than Hurts. He's real bad.
So you think we have a shot at a natty in 2019 with Slinger at OC and Kelly Bryant at QB?
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Posted on 10/15/21 at 11:01 am to LSUfan4444
Hard to tell.
People forget how good our defense was pretty much up to the A&M game when a few injuries started to catch up to us. We didn’t have an opponent break 30 until then. We also held 9 opponents to 21 less.
That being said, I think Auburn is an easy loss. We won by 1 point and involved a huge end game drive I dont See McMillian or Brennan pulling off.
UGA is a hard one to just because our defense whipped their arse and held them to 16 points.
Arkansas may have been a let down loss after Bama because we played like shite with Joe.
So maybe 8-5 maybe 9-4
Maybe way worse.
People forget how good our defense was pretty much up to the A&M game when a few injuries started to catch up to us. We didn’t have an opponent break 30 until then. We also held 9 opponents to 21 less.
That being said, I think Auburn is an easy loss. We won by 1 point and involved a huge end game drive I dont See McMillian or Brennan pulling off.
UGA is a hard one to just because our defense whipped their arse and held them to 16 points.
Arkansas may have been a let down loss after Bama because we played like shite with Joe.
So maybe 8-5 maybe 9-4
Maybe way worse.
Posted on 10/15/21 at 11:01 am to Mo Jeaux
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Not sure why you, Pirate, and others like you can’t get it through your heads that COVID and the BLM summer were nation-wide events. They did not affect solely LSU.
Exactly.
Posted on 10/15/21 at 11:02 am to bdavids09
Nope. Not even close.
Posted on 10/15/21 at 11:04 am to The Pirate King
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Ja’Marr Chase, Kary Vincent, Tyler Shelvin, Neil Farrell would have been added to the team.
Anyone who opted out and left did so because of O and/or the NFL. You'd have an argument for guys who opted out in 2020 and came back for 2021, but guys didn't leave for Covid in 2020. They left for the NFL.
Farrell played in 10 games last year/started 6.
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we would have had time to develop new team leadership and build relationships with new coordinators
- more time to properly adjust from 3-4 to 4-3
- no rift between coaches and players
And you don’t think this changes anything?
Not with a person with an IQ of 90 or so at Head Coach and no Burrow
Posted on 10/15/21 at 11:04 am to SlowFlowPro
Common exposure does not equal common response and I don't know how anyone older than 12 would need that explained to them but here we are.
Posted on 10/15/21 at 11:07 am to SlowFlowPro
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Anyone who opted out and left did so because of O and/or the NFL. You'd have an argument for guys who opted out in 2020 and came back for 2021, but guys didn't leave for Covid in 2020. They left for the NFL.
You’re trolling right? No way you’re serious
Stick to the OT.
This post was edited on 10/15/21 at 11:08 am
Posted on 10/15/21 at 11:07 am to Mo Jeaux
This thread has unrecognized sarcasm throughout. That shits annoying
In 2018 burrow was struggling at the beginning of the year but by the end of the year he was playing great. I think he just needed time to get in sync with everyone, moreso than the offense changing , both helped a ton though.
The question is could McMillan ,or whoever it would have been, do all the pre snap stuff burrow did that won us games whenever he was off a little.
I think the composure he played with and the way he elevated his game when we needed a drive like against auburn. I’m not sure we win the auburn game without him. We would have beat Miami either way .
In 2018 burrow was struggling at the beginning of the year but by the end of the year he was playing great. I think he just needed time to get in sync with everyone, moreso than the offense changing , both helped a ton though.
The question is could McMillan ,or whoever it would have been, do all the pre snap stuff burrow did that won us games whenever he was off a little.
I think the composure he played with and the way he elevated his game when we needed a drive like against auburn. I’m not sure we win the auburn game without him. We would have beat Miami either way .
Posted on 10/15/21 at 11:07 am to LSUfan4444
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McMillan transferred so if nothing else changed, he would have not been at LSU. It would have been Brennan at QB.
He transfered after Brennan came in.
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Hurts, Bryant and Fields are just examples of QBs that transferred. The point is, the same result could have happened with another transfer QB in 2019.
Which other QB? Who is coming into that vaunted 2018 offense?
Posted on 10/15/21 at 11:22 am to SammyTiger
McMillan would’ve been a nice fit in Canada’s offense.
Posted on 10/15/21 at 11:23 am to S
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McMillan would’ve been a nice fit in Canada’s offense.
Well he was here in 2017 and didn’t play, so Canada did not think so.
Posted on 10/15/21 at 11:26 am to sabbertooth
"Brett Favre's success caused havoc at LSU."
But it got a Wal-Mart built in Kiln, Mississippi!
But it got a Wal-Mart built in Kiln, Mississippi!
Posted on 10/15/21 at 11:26 am to SammyTiger
Etling was the returning 5th year senior starter who O was indebted to for playing solid enough to help him get the job. Brennan was the highly rated QB of the future who needed seasoning. Of course there was a hierarchy.
Posted on 10/15/21 at 11:27 am to sabbertooth
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always amazed at what a great QB can do for a team and a bad coach. Brett Favre’s success caused havoc at LSU.?
Players > coaches
Posted on 10/15/21 at 11:28 am to bdavids09
Would have lost to Georgia and Auburn and maybe Miami. Possibly even Mississippi State.
Posted on 10/15/21 at 11:35 am to p&g
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Players > coaches
Players are important but we’ve seen a bad coach hamstring enough good players to know you need good coaches.
Posted on 10/15/21 at 11:43 am to bdavids09
In 2018, Burrow was a very average QB. Then in 2019, after spending a full off-season under the tutelage of Steve Ensminger, Burrow morphed into the Greatest College Football QB of all time.
Furthermore, kudos for Ed O for going out there to get Joe Burrow and for coaching the greatest college football team ever in college football history.
However, now it's time for new blood as his previous success has turned him into a complacent lazy football coach that takes his job and football team for granted.
Furthermore, kudos for Ed O for going out there to get Joe Burrow and for coaching the greatest college football team ever in college football history.
However, now it's time for new blood as his previous success has turned him into a complacent lazy football coach that takes his job and football team for granted.
This post was edited on 10/15/21 at 11:44 am
Posted on 10/15/21 at 12:41 pm to Tigerpride18
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In 2018 burrow was struggling at the beginning of the year but by the end of the year he was playing great. I think he just needed time to get in sync with everyone, moreso than the offense changing , both helped a ton though.
It was partially time, and it’s easy to say that because we scored 40+ our last 3 games. But 2 of them were against G5 defenses and 1 we scored 24 points on offense in regulation.
Also, we scored 45non Ole Miss week 5. Because their defense was trash and we scored on trash defenses.
Posted on 10/15/21 at 1:09 pm to The Pirate King
quote:still would’ve sucked
What if Covid and the social justice stuff never happened
O is a bad coach that had a great year with a heisman winning Qb and stayed out of the real coaches way to a title. After burrow he’s been simply terrible and will be remembered as gene chizik 2. Except chizik could run a defense O can’t
Posted on 10/15/21 at 1:17 pm to TigerDM
quote:McMillian wasn't an SEC-caliber QB.
Justin McMillin was actually a really good QB
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