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Biden's OSHA gambit could very well blow up in his face

Posted on 9/10/21 at 10:23 am
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
99212 posts
Posted on 9/10/21 at 10:23 am
And provide ammo against the mandate (and the vaccines).

Biden is trying to use an Emergency Temporary Standard to impose the mandate immediately upon publication of the Rule in the Federal Register. That Reg states:




However, it also looks like the vaccine itself would fall under the definition of a hazardous substance...

LINK

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In the original final rule for HAZWOPER, the language in question was incorporated by reference to section 101(33) of the Comprehensive Environmental Response, Compensation, and Liability Act (CERCLA) of 1980. To improve clarity, the pertinent language was incorporated directly into the HAZWOPER standard on April 13, 1990, under subparagraph (B) of the definition for "hazardous substance," which reads:

Any biological agent and other disease-causing agent which after release into the environment and upon exposure, ingestion, inhalation, or assimilation into any person...will or may reasonably be anticipated to cause death, disease, behavioral abnormalities, cancer, genetic mutation, physiological malfunctions...or physiological deformations in such persons or their offspring.

As implied by the plain language of this definition, the phrase "other disease-causing agents" refers to any substance not otherwise covered under subparagraphs (A)-(D) of the definition, which causes death, disease, behavioral abnormalities, etc. Correspondingly, crystalline silica, which as you mentioned, causes silicosis and is not otherwise covered under the definition for "hazardous substance," would be considered a hazardous substance under the criteria established in subparagraph (B). Conversely, heat would not be covered under this definition, since heat is not a substance but rather a form of potential energy.

Emphasis added.


Notwithstanding that the "vaccines" have directly killed tens of thousands worldwide (and these are conservative numbers), even for those it doesn't kill, it absolutely poses a defined and recognized risk of myocarditis and clotting issues at a minimum.

In other words, the very rule they are relying on to require the jab can be used against it.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
71785 posts
Posted on 9/10/21 at 10:24 am to
Biden has no clue, he just reads his teleprompter so he can get his pudding reward.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19424 posts
Posted on 9/10/21 at 10:26 am to
They’ll twist and abuse any rule to get what they want. Look at Roe vs Wade, or ACÁ.

The whole system has been throughly corrupted, and I don’t trust the courts to follow the law.
Posted by Lynxrufus2012
Central Kentucky
Member since Mar 2020
12256 posts
Posted on 9/10/21 at 10:26 am to
so how in the frick if it is an emergency can you let in untested, unvaccinated people across the border? Make that part of the lawsuit.
Posted by ChipDiamond
Member since Nov 2019
189 posts
Posted on 9/10/21 at 10:26 am to
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They’ll twist and abuse any rule to get what they want.


Trump never did that.
Posted by Issa Honk
Let's Go Brandon
Member since Apr 2021
1081 posts
Posted on 9/10/21 at 10:27 am to
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Trump never did that.


Correct
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
12698 posts
Posted on 9/10/21 at 10:33 am to
quote:

Trump never did that.


Did you gripe about any instance you perceived this happened?

Why not now?

I can’t imagine how helpless Dems feel in supporting this abject failure. Has there ever been a president that admits he has to get permission to answer questions? It has to be embarrassing.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57407 posts
Posted on 9/10/21 at 10:35 am to
I've dealt with CERCLA projects (off and on) for decades.

The whole concept using CERCLA for vaccinations is stupid. It's like using a hammer to polish your car. It was never in any way Congress' intention for to be used for something like this.
This post was edited on 9/10/21 at 10:36 am
Posted by Von
Wichita Falls, TX
Member since Feb 2019
1940 posts
Posted on 9/10/21 at 10:53 am to
The unvaxxed are the toxic agents. They will not focus on anything else because they don't want to.
They will extend the emergency as long as necessary to get what they want.
Lawfare been putting in the overtime to find ways to "legally" frick us.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
99212 posts
Posted on 9/10/21 at 11:05 am to
quote:

I've dealt with CERCLA projects (off and on) for decades.

The whole concept using CERCLA for vaccinations is stupid. It's like using a hammer to polish your car. It was never in any way Congress' intention for to be used for something like this.


Seriously doubt they'll be entitled to Chevron deference.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111622 posts
Posted on 9/10/21 at 11:17 am to
Never depend on government to stop government overreach.

In fact, assume that government will say the sky is purple, laugh in your face and jack off on the bodies of dead babies.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
99212 posts
Posted on 9/10/21 at 11:29 am to
quote:

Never depend on government to stop government overreach.

In fact, assume that government will say the sky is purple, laugh in your face and jack off on the bodies of dead babies.


that's certainly true
Posted by ChipDiamond
Member since Nov 2019
189 posts
Posted on 9/10/21 at 1:39 pm to
quote:

Did you gripe about any instance you perceived this happened?




1. Trump ordered White House Counsel Don McGahn to create a false record indicating that no attempts [to fire Robert Mueller] took place – McGahn refused.

2. The Constitution’s Foreign Emoluments Clause prohibits the president from accepting personal benefits from any foreign government or official.
Trump retained ownership in his family business while he is in office. Every time a foreign official stayed at a Trump hotel, or a foreign government approved a new Trump Organization project, or granted a trademark (Chinese granted him several trademarks), Trump is in violation of the Constitution.

3. Every time Trump went to golf at a Trump property, he funneled taxpayer money into his family business, violating the Domestic Emoluments Clause.
Trump spent over $100 million taxpayer dollars to golf and vacation at his own properties.

How would you feel about Joe Biden funneling $100,000,000 plus of taxpayer money into his personal business? I'd like to see you go on record here saying how you would feel about that.

These are just the tip of the iceberg of ways he either violated the constitution or broke the rules.



Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11201 posts
Posted on 9/10/21 at 1:41 pm to
Could lawyers parlay this into a challenge on Chevron Deference? That’s the real question. Libs are known to throw a boomerang in their face from time to time.
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
22982 posts
Posted on 9/10/21 at 1:46 pm to
This will explode in his face just like every other major decision he has made
Posted by geauxturbo
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
4179 posts
Posted on 9/10/21 at 1:49 pm to
quote:

The whole concept using CERCLA for vaccinations is stupid. It's like using a hammer to polish your car


You mean, like using the Clean Air Act to regulate Greenhouse Gases. Square peg round hole is what Democrats do. Keeps them from having to pass legislation.
Posted by Jack Carter
Member since Sep 2018
10526 posts
Posted on 9/10/21 at 1:50 pm to
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Trump never did that.


You're right.
Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
14096 posts
Posted on 9/10/21 at 1:59 pm to
quote:

How would you feel about Joe Biden funneling $100,000,000 plus of taxpayer money into his personal business?


or his son hunter, or jill,
Posted by ChipDiamond
Member since Nov 2019
189 posts
Posted on 9/10/21 at 4:03 pm to
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or his son hunter, or jill,


Did Biden give US taxpayer money to Hunter or Jill?
Posted by nwacajun
St louis
Member since Dec 2008
1497 posts
Posted on 9/10/21 at 4:07 pm to
Those bitches need to read the fricking 10th amendment. And then hug these nuts.
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