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re: For anybody on the fence

Posted on 9/10/21 at 1:19 pm to
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
18147 posts
Posted on 9/10/21 at 1:19 pm to
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This is not meant to start an argument with people who are adamantly against the vaccine.

It's hard to imagine a real MD would be this dim 18 months into this shitshow. Do you seriously think that outside of some fringe whackos (on either side of the political spectrum), that people are "against the vaccine"? I would think a physician would know there's a big difference between "against the vaccine" and "I don't need the vaccine" or "I oppose vaccine mandates."

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This is not political. This is for anyone who is on the fence about the vaccine. I am a physician. What I have read on here about the level of disdain for healthcare professionals is disheartening. I can promise you that most healthcare professionals are good people, doing there best in an unprecedented time and situation. In the major metropolitan area I live there were 3 ICU beds available yesterday. There are now more patients admitted to the hospital than at any other point since this started. We are literally running out of beds and nurses to care for the patients. The overflow is saturating and filling up our emergency departments. And 95% of the patients admitted are unvaccinated. 50% of these people are under the age of 65. These patients stay twice as long on average as other people admitted to the hospital tying up a significant amount of resources. This is not up for debate. These are just facts. For the first time in my career I have been asked to delay cancer surgery. Its not just about the COVID patients, the downstream effects this has on other patients is devastating.

Reminds me of another MD or some sort of medical "expert" that shared a similar story but made the mistake of mentioning the area he was from, and I think it was 808 that called him on the bullshite - that in his whole state they weren't reporting the numbers this clown was reporting for the 2 or 3 hospitals he had privileges at.

What you've posted may be 100% accurate. No way to know from a bunch of text anonymously posted. But if it is genuine, details would make it compelling.

Not many areas have been hit harder than the Phoenix area (where I'm at) by Covid and the new shiny toy, Delta. Yet, we've never had more than 2/3rds of our ICU beds occupied by Covid, and that was at a time when Arizona was the global hotspot for Covid. This recent Delta spike has seen Covid peak at 32% of ICU capacity.

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Again, this is not meant to start an argument with people who are adamantly against the vaccine. You do you. But for anyone on the fence, I would implore you to consider getting vaccinated.

Well, tell us Doctor - why would a healthy person under the age of 50 (or 60 or even 70) that has already had Covid get vaccinated? What's the medical argument for it?
Posted by baobabtiger
Member since May 2009
4740 posts
Posted on 9/10/21 at 1:35 pm to
Are you prescribing ivermectin? If not why?
Posted by Herooftheday
Member since Feb 2021
3830 posts
Posted on 9/10/21 at 1:53 pm to
The hospital bed shortage is a staffing shortage.

Its disheartening for me when I talk to my healthcare professional and they tell me the vaccine is safe for pregnant women when the CDC states there's not enough information to make that determination.

You sound like a run of the mill "educated" pill salesman. Where have all the real doctors gone?
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
31581 posts
Posted on 9/10/21 at 2:02 pm to
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I am a physician.


Congrats?

ETA: also, then you shouldn't be giving medical advice on an online sports forum.
This post was edited on 9/10/21 at 2:03 pm
Posted by Dissident Aggressor
Member since Aug 2011
3879 posts
Posted on 9/10/21 at 2:15 pm to
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now do minorities


this is the white elephant in the room…
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56856 posts
Posted on 9/10/21 at 2:37 pm to
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This is not meant to start an argument with people who are adamantly against the vaccine. I respect your right to choose. This is not political. This is for anyone who is on the fence about the vaccine. I am a physician. What I have read on here about the level of disdain for healthcare professionals is disheartening. I can promise you that most healthcare professionals are good people, doing there best in an unprecedented time and situation. In the major metropolitan area I live there were 3 ICU beds available yesterday. There are now more patients admitted to the hospital than at any other point since this started. We are literally running out of beds and nurses to care for the patients. The overflow is saturating and filling up our emergency departments. And 95% of the patients admitted are unvaccinated. 50% of these people are under the age of 65. These patients stay twice as long on average as other people admitted to the hospital tying up a significant amount of resources. This is not up for debate. These are just facts. For the first time in my career I have been asked to delay cancer surgery. Its not just about the COVID patients, the downstream effects this has on other patients is devastating. Again, this is not meant to start an argument with people who are adamantly against the vaccine. You do you. But for anyone on the fence, I would implore you to consider getting vaccinated. Downvote away.



#1, you aren't a physician. You are lying.

#2, many locations have been through the Delta surge. It will be ok. Your area will be able to handle the surge. It will only last a couple of months, and your area will be better off when it's over.

#3, 95% is exaggerated. You set it too high. Also, your area is only partially (probably below 50%) vaccinated. So, while there definitely is a difference in hospital rates for vaccinated and unvaccinated, it's not nearly as stark as you pretend.

#4) just a reminder that it's very obvious that your entire post is a fabrication.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56856 posts
Posted on 9/10/21 at 2:41 pm to
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My wife (no pics) is an ER nurse. All of the stats and situations you describe matched her hospital until the last couple of days. This last surge was the worst so far. The unvaccinated to vaccinated ratio of hospitalizations has hovered around 7:1 for the past couple of weeks.



Georgia is 42% vaccinated. So, you have 42% of the population making up 87.5% of the hospitalizations. That's significant, but it isn't close to the picture that is being painted.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
33534 posts
Posted on 9/10/21 at 2:46 pm to
For an early 40s, healthy and active female who statistically has a low probability of dying from Covid but does have a history of blood clots and allergic reactions to nearly every injection given, what would you recommend? Bc I’m tired of ending up in the ER for emergency reactions to injections and medications and it’s unknown what causes the clotting when it occurs other than a loosely linked PAI-1 inhibitor. My body historically attacks everything “foreign” with a vengeance which causes clotting.

Frankly, I feel much safer going up against a virus with such a low death rate in my age group than conditions that are known to occur for me.

This decision isn’t a one size fits all and people need to understand there are many reasons people choose to not get this particular vaccination. For me, the risk seems to out weigh the reward.
This post was edited on 9/10/21 at 3:00 pm
Posted by Kjnstkmn
Vermilion Parish
Member since Aug 2020
10808 posts
Posted on 9/10/21 at 2:48 pm to

Reminder: hospitals are being relieved of liabilities if they strictly follow only the CDC approved regimen for Covid treatment - why they are fighting ivermectin use etc… Remdesivir is suspected of exacerbating Covid issues:

Doctor Reveals that Remdesivir Was the Real Cause For Many Alleged COVID-19 Maladies

LINK - great mountain publishing


NIH and CDC Protocols and Causing More COVID Deaths than COVID Alone!!!
LINK - kmed
Posted by Tiger580307019
Member since Jul 2021
14 posts
Posted on 9/10/21 at 2:49 pm to
Maybe don't fire your nurses who won't get vaccinated? You are creating your own staffing crisis by firing those who want to work and save lives. Don't pass the buck on to the unvaccinated like a coward.
Posted by CrimsonShadow
Montgomery
Member since Nov 2015
1278 posts
Posted on 9/10/21 at 4:03 pm to
Clean your own house and get your profession to stop lying to us and treat COVID with the known early cures rather than pushing the profitable vaccine that doesn't even work. You know what they are, just like most of the public knows. Stop the plandemic with the truth!


I do not need to get a vaccine that doesn't work so that the vaccine that others got will work.
Posted by coyotedawg5000
GA
Member since Nov 2020
154 posts
Posted on 9/10/21 at 4:36 pm to
the left is so hypocritical. if you get the vaccine that's your right but its also my right not to. meanwhile they won't respect my right to try alternative cures like ivermectin even though science shows it works. there's a scientist and horse rancher who proved this years ago, google mister hands
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
15301 posts
Posted on 9/10/21 at 4:44 pm to
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Sweet Pickles

Could marketing of the vaccination have been any better and less political? And the whole thing has been a moving target. My FIL had a positive covid test, got vaccinated , got Covid and was isolated for ten days. Later had a positive test and then a negative test some days later. Was later placed in a hospital with Covid. What's up with that doctor?
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
15301 posts
Posted on 9/10/21 at 4:45 pm to
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How do you test for the Delta, Lambda, Mu variant(s) in your hospital?


And Kappa and Sigma and Theta and Chi and Alpha Delta Pi?
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
15301 posts
Posted on 9/10/21 at 4:48 pm to
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doing there best

The word is their doc. Fourth grade stuff and proof reading.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56569 posts
Posted on 9/10/21 at 4:48 pm to
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Cancer so they can treat patients for a VIRUS with a 99.8% survival rate.

That is beyond fricked up.
the ones needing extended stays aren’t surviving at 99 percent
Posted by KLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2003
10345 posts
Posted on 9/10/21 at 4:51 pm to
How many had Covid previously? You mother frickers won’t answer that question will you?

Also, how about treating people BEFORE they get hospitalized?

So many people go to the doctor sick and you guys do nothing, then they show up in ER sick.
This post was edited on 9/10/21 at 4:58 pm
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 9/10/21 at 4:53 pm to
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For an early 40s, healthy and active female who statistically has a low probability of dying
pics?
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119146 posts
Posted on 9/10/21 at 5:00 pm to
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I don’t trust the entire healthcare system anymore since they allowed politics and profit to influence medical practices.


I basically trust them outside the scope of COVID. But dealing with COVID, I don’t trust them at all.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119146 posts
Posted on 9/10/21 at 5:02 pm to
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For the first time in my career I have been asked to delay cancer surgery.


The good news is you are making more money from dying COVID patients versus dying cancer patients. Your hospital bosses have to be jacked about that proposition.
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