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re: Damone Clark...How do you not change any from last season?
Posted on 9/5/21 at 1:06 pm to Rtowntiger
Posted on 9/5/21 at 1:06 pm to Rtowntiger
Talk to Coach Baker.
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Posted on 9/5/21 at 1:07 pm to Gus007
He has the physical tools
Coaching is lacking
Coaching is lacking
Posted on 9/5/21 at 1:09 pm to misey94
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All true except for the last bit. Blake Baker is a legit LB coach and we’ve seen no improvement at all. Clark just doesn’t have the instincts to play LB in a 4-3. He was playing a completely different 3-4 OLB role when he looked competent under Aranda. He doesn’t fit anywhere in this defense and it’s clear that he can’t adjust to this scheme like some other guys have.
Coaching may still be a huge issue, but it’s not the problem with Clark. He just needs to be benched in favor of guys who can at least execute the basics and have some instincts for the role of a 4-3 MLB.
I can't disagree with this, but isn't putting players in a position to succeed on the coaching staff? If he does not have the instincts to play 4-3 LB, then either bench him or adjust the scheme. God knows we have more 3-4 players anyway, so again, the "brainfarts" in charge are the problem.
Oh, and not only should Harris be benched, he should have been processed a long time ago, he is a cancer.
Posted on 9/5/21 at 1:09 pm to 33inNC
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Once he makes a decision to get somewhere, he gets there in a hurry. Unfortunately, he is usually chasing someone after he blows a lane assignment.
Yep. I had hope that it would be different this year when he filled the right gap for no gain or a short one a couple of times in the first quarter. But once their offense got him guessing in coverage, it all went out the window immediately.
As bad as Clark was, Harris and Toles were so much worse. They were the worst players on the field last night. The freshmen safeties can’t get on the field fast enough.
Posted on 9/5/21 at 1:10 pm to LsuTool
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He has the physical tools
Coaching is lacking
At this point, you either have it or you don't.
Posted on 9/5/21 at 1:22 pm to 33inNC
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I can't disagree with this, but isn't putting players in a position to succeed on the coaching staff? If he does not have the instincts to play 4-3 LB, then either bench him or adjust the scheme. God knows we have more 3-4 players anyway, so again, the "brainfarts" in charge are the problem. Oh, and not only should Harris be benched, he should have been processed a long time ago, he is a cancer.
I agree with you for the most part. The ultimate blame is on the coaches and it falls mostly on O. On-field coaching may be a problem, but it’s hard to tell when you have the right calls and players just don’t seem to be capable of executing. Talent eval and the depth chart decisions seem to be even bigger problems when it comes to the defense right now. If you have vets who can’t get it done, then they have no business being on the field with a bunch of talented young players sitting on the bench.
Also, it sounds pretty clear that our camps and practices are a joke under O. Our guys look fine in spring practice and fall camp because they know exactly what’s going to happen and aren’t being challenged with things they don’t know or expect. Then we get them in a real game and the wheels fall off because they aren’t prepared for unfamiliar situations. They aren’t being challenged and tested properly. If they were, then these problems we see on the field would be evident in practices and scrimmages, as well. If a guy like Clark looks great in practice and terrible on the field, then the way you practice is flawed.
Posted on 9/5/21 at 1:26 pm to 33inNC
All you stated is fair & accurate 
On my 3rd shot of whiskey thinking about last night it’s gonna be a long year baw.
On my 3rd shot of whiskey thinking about last night it’s gonna be a long year baw.
This post was edited on 9/5/21 at 1:27 pm
Posted on 9/5/21 at 1:42 pm to GeauxFightingTigers1
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At this point, you either have it or you don't.
This! At some point you just have to understand you can be a physical specimen but not a good player. He lacks all the instincts and aggression it takes to be a SEC linebacker. When his gap opens up, instead of shooting through it and making play in backfield, he would wait till a lineman got to him then make the tackle for a 6 yard gain.
He just doesn’t have it. You want to see how linebackers should fit the run go watch Bama’s game from yesterday. You should never want them to gain 1 yard.
Posted on 9/5/21 at 1:49 pm to inadaze
Yeah, did you see him run him down on the sideline and then pull up to not touch him and he got 5 more yards!!!!
Posted on 9/5/21 at 1:51 pm to misey94
Yea theres no way these guys are facing alot of adversity in practice. Because when adversity hits them on the field, they fold.
Posted on 9/5/21 at 1:52 pm to Rtowntiger
Tried tellin yall and got downvoted to hell
Posted on 9/5/21 at 1:53 pm to Rtowntiger
Clark, and pretty much whoever else plays linebacker, almost always puts himself in a position to be completely taken out of the play. One play last night that went for a big gain, Clark moved in behind two of our defensive linemen - took himself out of where the play ended up going and right behind two linemen being blocked. Yes, the running back states in that direction, but since our linemen were there , No way was he going to run that direction - there was no hole there. Once Clark slid over there, all the blocker had to do was stand between him and the now gaping hole. an easy 30-yard run because he took himself out of the hole and into a position where he had no opportunity to make a play.
No gap discipline by anyone. They don’t trust their teammates to make plays.
No gap discipline by anyone. They don’t trust their teammates to make plays.
Posted on 9/5/21 at 1:54 pm to Rtowntiger
Needs to be benched
Posted on 9/5/21 at 2:35 pm to LSUStar
Keep saying it... Harris and Clark cost Ed O his job. The middle linebacker is the leader of the defense. Clark is not good. He is not a middle linebacker. He thinks rather than reacts. A middle linebacker should not do that. They should not be on the roster anymore let alone on the field. They can go with Ed O when they inevitably replace him.
Posted on 9/5/21 at 2:59 pm to Rtowntiger
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He lacks all the instincts and aggression it takes to be a SEC linebacker.
MLB. He was actually fine as a 3-4 OLB, but he was mostly just rushing the passer and playing down one side. It’s a much simpler assignment and he was good at that spot in 2019. He just can’t play in the middle, especially in a 4-3 (really a 4-2-5 Nickle) where 2 guys have a ton of responsibility.
Posted on 9/6/21 at 2:50 am to lovinLSU
quote:Devin White
Sure miss Patrick Queen…
Kevin Minter
Kendall Beckwith
Just to name a few recent boys. We are so weak at LB. shite.
Perry Riley
Kelvin Sheppard
Ali Highsmith
Kwon Alexander
Deion Jones (was a much better pro tbh, but id love him rn)
Duke Riley
Ryan Baker
Jacob Phillips
This decade-ish^
Those dudes were all spread out since 2007, but we dont have a DUDE this year.
This post was edited on 9/6/21 at 3:01 am
Posted on 9/6/21 at 3:15 am to Rtowntiger
dude is the worst LB i’ve seen at LSU in my whole 23 years of living
Posted on 9/6/21 at 3:28 am to NorthTxLSU
Which means the coaching staff sucks. He isn't a MLB and that should have been obvious after last year. It's not his fault they have him playing out of his natural position.
Posted on 9/6/21 at 3:39 am to Rtowntiger
clark should be at DE and Oljulari should be at LB. Both guys are out of position.
Posted on 9/6/21 at 4:46 am to Rtowntiger
The most important defensive position on the field and almost every big play they got was because of him in coverage and not being in the right position. He had a few good plays but this position is supposed to be the heart of the defense. If you watched the penn st game that MLB was shooting gaps in the back field making plays , covering rb's out of backfield, getting off blocks making tackles. Did you see clark do any of that? NO! Scary part is it seems we have no one better to play the position and he will be starting in the same spot next game 
This post was edited on 9/6/21 at 4:56 am
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