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re: Why can’t ULM call themselves “Louisiana” too?

Posted on 9/6/21 at 11:04 pm to
Posted by Cajunese
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
6974 posts
Posted on 9/6/21 at 11:04 pm to
quote:

Link? I provided mine. Where's yours?


Nice try. Before TAF came around, how do you think the athletic department was funded?
Posted by LaCajunsFan
UL Ragin Cajuns
Member since Mar 2014
1262 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 3:26 am to
Correct…..except it was for much longer than 60 years.
This post was edited on 9/7/21 at 5:38 am
Posted by ULL Cool J
Member since Jun 2008
924 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 3:53 am to
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Correct…..except it for much longer than 60 years.


Still no link provided.
Posted by LaCajunsFan
UL Ragin Cajuns
Member since Mar 2014
1262 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 5:37 am to
Idiot. There is no link to provide. The la tax payers supported the tiggers for over 100 years, before the taf was formed. Or maybe you’d have us believe that people of Alabama supported them? Or martians?
Posted by bgtiger
Prairieville
Member since Dec 2004
11438 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 8:53 am to
I hate to do this to SVP because of the hate mail he will receive... but he called ULM "Louisiana" for the entire bad beats segment of his show last night.
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
94768 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 9:21 am to
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and what about the new medical school?



the totally separate from ULM institution that leases land on ULMs campus?


I'll give them credit though, ULM did a great job at marketing that to fool people into thinking they have a medical school. From thr ULM website a few years ago...

Headline: ULM closer to getting osteopathic medical school

Content:
quote:

The move brings VCOM one step closer to creating a location at ULM. In May the UL System Board of Regents approved a cooperative endeavor between ULM and VCOM to establish a branch campus at ULM
Posted by ULL Cool J
Member since Jun 2008
924 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 9:24 am to
Ha! Attack the messenger. ULL fans hate for their dirty secret to be exposed. Despite claims about LSU, no numbers are provided to back them up. Well, what we do know is that for the last fiscal year the ULL athletics taxpayer subsidy exceeded its closest rival (La. Tech) by an amount 1-1/2 times greater than that for McNeese (a by comparison small $5, 068, 069). When the new numbers come out in a few months, they will be further off the charts. In a state where roads can't be fixed, bridges can't be built, and other necessities can't be fully funded, taxpayers should be outraged.
Posted by Pedro
Geaux Hawks
Member since Jul 2008
33731 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 9:34 am to
I mean acting like this doesn’t help bolster the university is equally as ridiculous as acting like it’s directly a part of it. Having that on campus is no doubt drawing students to undergrad programs that help feed into it.
This post was edited on 9/7/21 at 9:35 am
Posted by hubertcumberdale
Member since Nov 2009
6543 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 9:41 am to
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Yeah... UL has twice the pop and 6x endowment, but ok.


Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
139876 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 9:46 am to
LINK to how Long had taxes fund LSU


Oh yeah that is a journal from jstor, so not sure you will understand how to read it since it does not have pictures and small words
This post was edited on 9/7/21 at 9:48 am
Posted by ULL Cool J
Member since Jun 2008
924 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 10:36 am to
The other guys said 60 years. Now you are going back to Huey Long. That's nearly 100 years. Is that your argument? Huey Long favored LSU (the top state university then as now) so your school's athletic program deserves welfare today.
Posted by Cajunese
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
6974 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 10:56 am to
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The other guys said 60 years. Now you are going back to Huey Long. That's nearly 100 years. Is that your argument? Huey Long favored LSU (the top state university then as now) so your school's athletic program deserves welfare today.



As of 2016, LSU was one of 7 schools that does not receive a state subsidy which means the other 123 schools in the FBS must be "Welfare queens" as well.

In a state that is dead last in education, this tells me that people's priorities in this state lie somewhere beyond higher ed.
Posted by Baers Foot
Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns
Member since Dec 2011
3547 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 11:11 am to
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ULL Cool J


Choupique19 alt? He's been surprisingly absent from this thread.
Posted by WildManGoose
Member since Nov 2005
4568 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 12:12 pm to
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Those are the only 3 schools that are ranked in every major academic ranking service year in and year out.

Now, LaTech is a nationally ranked tier 1 and all but LSU is significantly ahead and Tulane is way ahead of both LSU and Tulane.


This is all hogwash. What is tier 1 exactly? What is a "major academic ranking service"?

Rankings are more/less BS, but here we go:

THE:
68 - Tulane
264 - LSU
>600 - ULL
>600 - LaTech
*ULM unlisted

USNWR:
41 - Tulane
153 - LSU
298-389 - ULL
298-389 - LaTech
298-389 - ULM

Princeton Review Best 387:
Listed - Tulane, LSU, ULL
Unlisted - LaTech, ULM

Carnegie Classification:
R1 - Tulane, LSU
R2 - ULL, LaTech
D/PU - ULM

ULL and Tech are basically indistinguishable in rankings except for ULL being included in the PR Best 387. ULM is a step below both.




Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
Sugarland
Member since Jul 2005
10680 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 1:24 pm to
quote:


THE:
68 - Tulane
264 - LSU
>600 - ULL
>600 - LaTech
*ULM unlisted
USNWR:
41 - Tulane
153 - LSU
298-389 - ULL
298-389 - LaTech
298-389 - ULM
Carnegie Classification:
R1 - Tulane, LSU
R2 - ULL, LaTech
D/PU - ULM


LSU is clearly the best public institution in the State and one of the best in the country. LSU and Tulane are also R1 institutions which puts them in an entirely different league in global academics.
Posted by chew4219
Member since Sep 2009
2724 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 2:06 pm to
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Carnegie Classification:
R1 - Tulane, LSU
R2 - ULL, LaTech
D/PU - ULM

ULL and Tech are basically indistinguishable in rankings except for ULL being included in the PR Best 387. ULM is a step below both.


According to the people I’ve spoken with, UL should be a Carnegie R1 this next classification.
Posted by LaCajunsFan
UL Ragin Cajuns
Member since Mar 2014
1262 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 2:49 pm to
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LSU is clearly the best public institution in the State and one of the best in the country. LSU and Tulane are also R1 institutions which puts them in an entirely different league in global academics.


Dude. C'mon. you can't be that blind/stupid. At best lsu is middlin'......in the sec. And that is after getting the lion's share of funds in the state for over a 100 years.
Posted by LaLadyinTx
Cypress, TX
Member since Nov 2018
6087 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 3:05 pm to
quote:

I don't think I have ever seen one ULM fan complain in one of these threads. Basically ULM people just accept it because at the end of the day, most of them just go to school there to get a degree with zero fricks given about athletics


I just saw this thread today. I comment on every single one of these thread. Generally, the group of folks at NLU when I was, are pretty damn bitter about it all. We saw our university who at the time was either larger or the same size as both La Tech and USL get screwed over. I was there in the late 70's and early 80's. We were all pretty much equals at that point. It pisses me off every single time I see UL or Louisiana.
Posted by LaLadyinTx
Cypress, TX
Member since Nov 2018
6087 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 3:07 pm to
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Why can’t ULM call themselves “Louisiana” too?
The difference between ULaLa, ULM and Tech is ULM knows their place in the pecking order of Louisiana universities.

Yall left out ULM's nursing program and what about the new medical school?


Exactly. So these idiots just want to move all the good programs out of ULM and just give them to other schools. Basically, that's the ULL and LaTech folks trying to do to other schools the same thing they think LSU did to them!
Posted by LaCajunsFan
UL Ragin Cajuns
Member since Mar 2014
1262 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 3:30 pm to
whoa now there little lady....I think you have confused with the ruston mutts. I have never heard any UL people say that we should take all the good things from ulm and then just shut them down. That's what ltur would do if they ever got their grubby little paws on you.
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