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I visited Appomattox today

Posted on 8/26/21 at 9:16 pm
Posted by Kirby59
Rocket City
Member since Nov 2016
701 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 9:16 pm
I had always thought it was the biggest surrender in American history. After what happened today and the lead up to it, I consider the way we are leaving Afghanistan to have surpassed it.

BTW, it is pretty neat place to visit if you haven’t done it yet.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
36238 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 9:20 pm to
What the Founding Fathers intended America to be died at Appomattox in April 1865. Today's perversion of a government can be directly traced back to the Union victory and the federal government's centralization of power.
Posted by Tbonepatron
Member since Aug 2013
8447 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 9:44 pm to
How was the courthouse?
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
22434 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 9:46 pm to
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What the Founding Fathers intended America to be died at Appomattox in April 1865. Today's perversion of a government can be directly traced back to the Union victory and the federal government's centralization of power.


Amen. 100% truth.

Deo Vindice
Posted by G The Tiger Fan
Member since Apr 2015
103967 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 9:49 pm to
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What the Founding Fathers intended America to be died at Appomattox in April 1865. Today's perversion of a government can be directly traced back to the Union victory and the federal government's centralization of power.
I agree. A lot of people will think that's too far back in history to matter but it has been used by many sinc then to push the idea that there is no escape from the central government.
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 9:52 pm to
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What the Founding Fathers intended America to be died at Appomattox in April 1865. Today's perversion of a government can be directly traced back to the Union victory and the federal government's centralization of power.

It is a shame that we cant have a breakaway state based on how the real America would have evolved to..

I know, but I can dream
Posted by Snoop Dawg
Member since Sep 2009
2200 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 10:00 pm to
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What the Founding Fathers intended America to be died at Appomattox in April 1865. Today's perversion of a government can be directly traced back to the Union victory and the federal government's centralization of power.


No. Slavery was evil and a majority of the wise founding fathers put in a poison pill to kill it. Appomattox was the realization of this. Problem then as is now are the Democrats. Racist, evil.

ADAR. All Democrats Are Racist.
Posted by Wolfgang Wolfhausen
Little Rock, AR
Member since Jul 2014
187 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 10:01 pm to
The confederacy would have ended the slave trade on its own, they already were making plans to end the importation of new slaves. The civil war was a totally unnecessary evil.
Posted by LSUDAN1
Member since Oct 2010
9017 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 10:04 pm to
Lincoln should have been hung for causing the Northern aggression on the South.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119030 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 10:18 pm to
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I visited Appomattox today


I thought you were talking about his behemoth:

Posted by Snoop Dawg
Member since Sep 2009
2200 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 10:20 pm to
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The confederacy would have ended the slave trade on its own, they already were making plans to end the importation of new slaves. The civil war was a totally unnecessary evil.


That doesn’t immediately end the evil of slavery. Southern Pride shouldn’t cloud your judgment about Democrat Party evil. They were evil then, and are evil now. Enjoy your forced vaccination, “citizen.”
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
19589 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 10:20 pm to
Longstreet actually believed they should have freed every slave, then fired on Sumter.
Posted by TNTigerman
James Island
Member since Sep 2012
10517 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 10:53 pm to
Oh, the irony.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33595 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 10:57 pm to
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they already were making plans to end the importation of new slaves.
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
31974 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 10:59 pm to
Unfortunately the south’s acceptance of slavery doomed it. If the South would’ve ended slavery, not the slave trade but slavery itself, the seceded there is probably no war. The South embraced something evil and paid the price.
Posted by Veritas
Raleigh, NC
Member since Feb 2005
6310 posts
Posted on 8/27/21 at 12:19 am to
Appomattox wasn’t the largest surrender of the Civil War. Bennett Place in Durham, NC was.
This post was edited on 8/27/21 at 12:20 am
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
49840 posts
Posted on 8/27/21 at 12:28 am to
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The confederacy would have ended the slave trade on its own, they already were making plans to end the importation of new slaves.


By federal law, the importation of slaves ended in 1808.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
13528 posts
Posted on 8/27/21 at 3:08 am to


Appomattox Courthouse is the name of the village where McCleans farm is, the armistice was signed in his living room.

Lee agreed to turn over govt issued weapons not a surrender.

Ironically, the first battle of the war(Bull Run) was fought partially on a farm owned by McClean. As first gen immigrants he and the wife were appalled their new country had gone to war, sold the farm and moved far away to.....Appomattox Courthouse were the last of the war of aggression was finished with the agreement.

At a museum in Richmond VA they have war between the state memorabilia. In it there are two letters from soldiers during that fateful day. One from the south, very poor grammar with most words spelled phonetically, who doesnt understand why they are quitting, they still have a chance.

The union soldier talks about the disgusting appearance of the south, ragged cloths, some barefoot, their pockets filled with raw corn, and some crying. Then to his dismay his commanding officer orders a call to arms as a salute to the motley crew as they pass by. No doubt his commanding officer realized if he had that bunch he could have ended the war years before.

I saw where the table on which the armistice was signed was tracked down by some fella and bought for 50 bucks, obviously the owners had no idea what they had in their possession.

Sorry, I lived in Virginia, a tremendous amount of history to see if you just get out there and visit, and many people interested in sharing it.
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
4442 posts
Posted on 8/27/21 at 4:00 am to
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No. Slavery was evil and a majority of the wise founding fathers put in a poison pill to kill it. Appomattox was the realization of this. Problem then as is now are the Democrats. Racist, evil.


Do you know where this comes from?

quote:

That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States


That war was was to reinstate the original intent of the founders. The so called "United States" is nothing more than a construct resulting from a compact between free and independent nations, called states.

I am a citizen of Florida. That is my Nation. The US Government is a subordinate organization subservient to MY STATE... MY COUNTRY ... FLORIDA. And it exist at my pleasure and for as long as I want it to.

That is what the war was about

You are regurgitating Lincoln's lie, that it was a humanitarian crusade. Ha! It was an invasion of sovereign nations by a hostile forces led by one of the biggest racists ever to hold the presidency.

Lincoln was a fraud. His reasons for the war were nothing short of an opportunistic quest to enshrine a all powerful central authority to set the stage for the new merchantilism that lead to today's Corporate slave state.

Lincoln was a war criminal, he along with his drunken general Sherman and Sheridan who raped their way through the South.

Lincoln was a terrible racist. And he's plan was to deport blacks. And most Union States bestowed zero rights to black people at that time, not even equal access to the criminal justice system.


You are so wrong. Ninety four pct of the confederacy owned no slaves and those troops had no intention to fight for slavery. Slavery ended in every county on earth peacefully, except here.

That surrender meant that you can only leave these "United States in a body bag and that the free and sovereign states of this continent are slaves to their own creation

It was the sadest day in history and the true beginning of the ruin we face today. It made the tyranny of today inevitable.

Had the South won, this would have been a land of free people living in free and independent countries cooperating together for the betterment of all. Slavery would be long past.

Instead, we are now all slaves, together.

Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59085 posts
Posted on 8/27/21 at 4:10 am to
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The South embraced something evil and paid the price.


Oh dear god. Aren’t you a teacher?
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