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Natural antibody vs vaccine antibody
Posted on 8/21/21 at 10:57 am
Posted on 8/21/21 at 10:57 am
I continue to see things mentioned in support of the vaccine that suggest natural antibodies are somehow inferior or that they don't last as long. Based on my research on the CDC website, I just do not see how that is supported by fact. The CDC states it don't yet know how long either natural or vaccine antibodies last.
The CDC clearly states that it is RARE to have a reinfection of covid.
Directly from CDC Website:
"Antibody or serology tests look for antibodies in your blood that fight the virus that causes COVID-19"
"Antibodies can protect you from getting those infections for some period of time afterward. How long this protection lasts is different for each disease and each person."
(note: The length of protection cited above is in reference to antibodies from both natural infection and vaccine induced antibodies)
"Some antibodies made for the virus that causes COVID-19 provide protection from getting infected. CDC is evaluating antibody protection and how long protection from antibodies might last. Cases of reinfection and infection after vaccination have been reported, but remain rare. But getting vaccinated, even if you have already had COVID-19, can help your body make more of these antibodies"
"Confirmed and suspected cases of reinfection of the virus that causes COVID-19 have been reported, but remain rare"
Why does it seem that any information on natural antibody protection from reinfection is suppressed?
The CDC clearly states that it is RARE to have a reinfection of covid.
Directly from CDC Website:
"Antibody or serology tests look for antibodies in your blood that fight the virus that causes COVID-19"
"Antibodies can protect you from getting those infections for some period of time afterward. How long this protection lasts is different for each disease and each person."
(note: The length of protection cited above is in reference to antibodies from both natural infection and vaccine induced antibodies)
"Some antibodies made for the virus that causes COVID-19 provide protection from getting infected. CDC is evaluating antibody protection and how long protection from antibodies might last. Cases of reinfection and infection after vaccination have been reported, but remain rare. But getting vaccinated, even if you have already had COVID-19, can help your body make more of these antibodies"
"Confirmed and suspected cases of reinfection of the virus that causes COVID-19 have been reported, but remain rare"
Why does it seem that any information on natural antibody protection from reinfection is suppressed?
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Posted on 8/21/21 at 10:59 am to JAMAC2001
Yes!!! Another covid post!!!! Thanks!
Posted on 8/21/21 at 10:59 am to JAMAC2001
quote:
Why does it seem that any information on natural antibody protection from reinfection is suppressed?
I'm not sure it's suppressed. The priority has been preventing infection.
Posted on 8/21/21 at 10:59 am to JAMAC2001
Posted on 8/21/21 at 11:00 am to JAMAC2001
The problem is that natural infection and reinfection are incredibly hard to track compared to vaccination.
Posted on 8/21/21 at 11:01 am to JAMAC2001
This post was edited on 9/2/21 at 2:03 pm
Posted on 8/21/21 at 11:01 am to JAMAC2001
The immune system is more complicated than just antibodies.
Posted on 8/21/21 at 11:04 am to JAMAC2001
"Muh antibodies and muh ivermectin" - Dustin 37 years old, BMI 32
Posted on 8/21/21 at 11:05 am to JAMAC2001
I covered all my bases and have both natural and vaccine antibodies. I have a virus force field with the added bonus of superior 5g reception 
Posted on 8/21/21 at 11:10 am to JAMAC2001
quote:
Natural antibody
Posted on 8/21/21 at 11:14 am to JAMAC2001
If, according to the CDC, its RARE to have a reinfection, you should be able to (when required) provide proof of antibody testing in lieu of a vaccine card.
I cannot see how this is unreasonable. (applies to job requirements, etc.)
I cannot see how this is unreasonable. (applies to job requirements, etc.)
Posted on 8/21/21 at 11:20 am to JAMAC2001
quote:Not suppressed. Not common, not enough data.
Why does it seem that any information on natural antibody protection from reinfection is suppressed?
Posted on 8/21/21 at 11:25 am to JAMAC2001
Regardless of anti-bodies “going away”, the memory on how to fight the virus stays in your cells and those anti-bodies will be reactivated once the virus is detected by those memory cells
Posted on 8/21/21 at 11:33 am to JAMAC2001
To be clear, I am not anti-vaccine.
I just fail to see why an unvaccinated person is pressured to get a vaccine provided they have:
1) caught the virus
2) overcame the virus
3) tested for antibodies
4) results showing sufficient antibody protection
I just fail to see why an unvaccinated person is pressured to get a vaccine provided they have:
1) caught the virus
2) overcame the virus
3) tested for antibodies
4) results showing sufficient antibody protection
This post was edited on 8/21/21 at 11:34 am
Posted on 8/21/21 at 11:43 am to JAMAC2001
I can tell you for a fact that natural lasts over 15 months as both my wife and myself still have them.
Posted on 8/21/21 at 11:55 am to JAMAC2001
Have any studies been conducted on the profitability of natural antibodies?
ETA: tongue-in-cheek, but valid question.
ETA: tongue-in-cheek, but valid question.
This post was edited on 8/21/21 at 12:06 pm
Posted on 8/21/21 at 11:57 am to JAMAC2001
quote:
Cases of reinfection and infection after vaccination have been reported, but remain rare.
All reasonable points in OP. However that last part about infection after vaccination being ‘rare’ is yet another example why people don’t trust the CDC fully. I know from personal experience at least 4 people who got COVID and were symptomatic AFTER vaccination. That means it cannot possibly be ‘rare’. Those people didn’t die, which is great. But to keep pushing this idea that infection after vaccination is ‘rare’ is flatly wrong. From what I understand, most states only report these ‘rare’ breakthrough infections if they result in hospitalizations (which are also creeping up, thus the push for boosters already for older, more vulnerable people).
Posted on 8/21/21 at 3:33 pm to JAMAC2001
I can personally verify whether natural get it or vaccinated, you will get it again. I along with other family members had it last June , then vaccinated in jan,feb and just recently most of us tested positive again. We all good
Posted on 8/21/21 at 4:59 pm to JAMAC2001
I'm still trying to figure out what's going on in my house. Both kids and wife have gotten it twice, I've never had a sympton or tested positive.
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